1 - Marc-Andre ter Ansplant

[Rory]

I argue my points and try to explain as best I can.
If anything, I am always admitting what I don't know.
A shame you and others jump on other users percieved IQ or tone, instead of answering the questions and continuing the debate...

Nothing to do with IQ but that’s quite telling. People don’t want to debate with people who give the impression or just outright say their argument is based on a greater understanding of football. Especially when absolutely nothing alludes to this being true.
It’s like this:
Dont agree with my point? Ah it’s because my knowledge and ideas are superior to yours and you just can’t understand it.

Engaging with that is pointless.

And yes my small football brain understands the irony of the last sentence

 

[Daniele]

Nothing to do with IQ but that’s quite telling. People don’t want to debate with people who give the impression or just outright say their argument is based on a greater understanding of football. Especially when absolutely nothing alludes to this being true.
It’s like this:
Dont agree with my point? Ah it’s because my knowledge and ideas are superior to yours and you just can’t understand my it.

Engaging with that is pointless.

And yes my small football brain understands the irony of the last sentence

man, let's do something
who are these outrageous users ???

 

[serghei]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCvrIZHm2eU

Pretty good game, that!

Sometimes I feel this forum is like an episode of Twin Peaks The Return. You give me examples of glorified friendlies for why Stegen is great?

 

[Daniele]

Sometimes I feel this forum is like an episode of Twin Peaks The Return. You give me examples of glorified friendlies for why Stegen is great?

Twin Peaks The Return is a masterpiece (and a great cameo of Mats btw)

 

[Devils]

It's no different than when City fans were trying to pass Joe Hart off as one of the best goalkeepers in the world and indispensable to the team.

Then Pep came, quickly realized how big of a fraud he was, kicked his ass out of the club and City have been million times better off without him and never looked back.

It would be the exact same scenario with Ter-Stegen and Barcelona.

Some people bought into this fraud's hype and never were able to make it back to reality.

 

[Daniele]

It's no different than when City fans were trying to pass Joe Hart off as one of the best goalkeepers in the world and indispensable to the team.

Then Pep came, quickly realized how big of a fraud he was, kicked his ass out of the club and City have been million times better off without him and never looked back.

It would be the exact same scenario with Ter-Stegen and Barcelona.

Some people bought into this fraud's hype and never were able to make it back to reality.

ok,
I see that we are reeeaally going wild with examples here

 

[Devils]

ok,
I see that we are reeeaally going wild with examples here

I don't see anything wrong with comparing trash with trash.

But hey, to each their own!

 

[Daniele]

I don't see anything wrong with comparing trash with trash.

But hey, to each their own!

ok, I note it.
Then in a few months, when Mats proves the groundlessness of your vulgar words, I don't want to see you all write "we never spilled shit on spider man ter stegen!"

 

[Bobo32]

Sometimes I feel this forum is like an episode of Twin Peaks The Return. You give me examples of glorified friendlies for why Stegen is great?

This post is a perfect example of what I wrote above.
It is just ridiculous that his saves in that game would be less good than if they were made in another game. That game was in the top 10 most important games Barcelona played last year btw.

Rory: I want to debate the things at hand, not talk about users feelings. Or I am satisfied just writing my own view tbh, you don't have to respond to me if my way of writing makes you feel the wrong way. Of course I believe I am right when I write something. And I try to explain why and I sometimes ask for clarifications. You just took another example in La Liga winner Luis Suarez and started to write vertically, what kind of behaviour is that?

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Devils on fire

 

[Devils]

ok, I note it.
Then in a few months, when Mats proves the groundlessness of your vulgar words, I don't want to see you all write "we never spilled shit on spider man ter stegen!"

Unfortunately for you, my words are based on the last 4 years of watching this goalkeeper. Which is based on reality.

Unfortunately for you, your words are based on hope that he will somehow come good in a few months time. Which is not reality.

It's the hope that always kills you in the end.

 

[Daniele]

Unfortunately for you, my words are based on the last 4 years of watching this goalkeeper. Which is based on reality.

Unfortunately for you, your words are based on hope that he will somehow come good in a few months time. Which is not reality.

It's the hope that always kills you in the end.

Mate...
Do you know Google?
Try typing the rankings of goalkeepers from the last 4 years and see the rankings of the international press and experts.
Then come back here to do the phenomenon please
I start for you with three examples then you can continue by your own


https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/ranked-the-10-best-goalkeepers-in-the-world

https://punditfeed.com/lists/top-10-goalkeepers-world/

https://everybodysoccer.com/even-the-goalkeepers-like-to/2020/2/18/the-worlds-best-goalkeepers-2020

 

[BBZ8800]

I found it hard, was hard to find
Oh well, whatever, never mind

F A# G# C#

Anyway, why mixing those lyrics with Mats?
That's blasphemy again.

 

[te amo barca]

Mate...
Do you know Google?
Try typing the rankings of goalkeepers from the last 4 years and see the rankings of the international press and experts.
Then come back here to do the phenomenon please
I start for you with three examples then you can continue by your own


https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/ranked-the-10-best-goalkeepers-in-the-world

https://punditfeed.com/lists/top-10-goalkeepers-world/

https://everybodysoccer.com/even-the-goalkeepers-like-to/2020/2/18/the-worlds-best-goalkeepers-2020

classic appeal to false authority fallacy. He is regarded one of the top GKs purely on the back of his previous good seasons before 19/20 and the fact that he plays for FC Barcelona. So what if some obscure websites with no authority at all think he is a top GK?

 

[Devils]

Mate...
Do you know Google?
Try typing the rankings of goalkeepers from the last 4 years and see the rankings of the international press and experts.
Then come back here to do the phenomenon please
I start for you with three examples then you can continue by your own


https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/ranked-the-10-best-goalkeepers-in-the-world

https://punditfeed.com/lists/top-10-goalkeepers-world/

https://everybodysoccer.com/even-the-goalkeepers-like-to/2020/2/18/the-worlds-best-goalkeepers-2020

lol be real.

Those lists are just a list of keepers from top clubs.

They also exclude the likes of Donarumma and Martinez who are way better keepers than Ter-Stegen.