1 - Victor Valdes

[Jaguar]

He had almost no work at all before that lmfao.

He has made countless mistakes that lead to our defeats or draws in the past years, so yes im very serious. There are better goalkeepers out there even for 1vs1, that don't make such mistakes and so often.

Do you remember Paris 2006? Go be "serious" somewhere else...

 

[Badger]

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You really think De Gea is better Valdes.

Both Cech and Neuer make more mistakes than Valdes. You only have to watch the Chelsea highlights from last night to see that.

 

[Jaguar]

He commanded his box well and caught so many corners with ease.

There isn't a single goalkeeper in the world that doesn't make mistakes.

You tell him bra!

 

[estranged]

Di Maria also did his bit to unbalance VV, could have been called a foul when he grabbed VVs arms.

 

[yeswecan]

Valdes better than Cech

I can hardly imagine how a non-Barca fan would react to that

 

[Badger]

Valdes better than Cech

I can hardly imagine how a non-Barca fan would react to that

I don't know what Cech and what Valdes you have been watching for the last 4 years

 

[Deco 20]

Possibly only the clásicos

 

[yeswecan]

since the clasicos are the ones that mostly determine the titles , I wouldn't care if he occasionally does a couple of saves against shitty La Liga teams while he gives RM a bonus goal in every clasico.

 

[SoMa]

lol

 

[estranged]

Sorry, but no way VV is better than Neuer and Cech. How great a GK is should be dependent on just how much of a role he has played in his clubs titles and success.VV played a huge part for couple of seasons, but lets face it, Bayern o=and Chelsea (well Chelsea of 04-10), even Madrid depend on their keepers a lot lot more than Barca in order to win games. VV has also been solely to blame for some Barca losses, and even some competition exists (Such as UCl 06-07)

 

[Badger]

since the clasicos are the ones that mostly determine the titles , I wouldn't care if he occasionally does a couple of saves against shitty La Liga teams while he gives RM a bonus goal in every clasico.

Every game is worth 3 points. Surely it would be easier to make mistakes against a team with the quality of Real Madrid than to make mistakes against Reading etc?

There's some examples of mistakes made by Cech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hg_woLx6ik&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjra4Y22LwM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF1hepZ_Yac

A lot of knee-jerk crap in this thread. I was really disappointed and annoyed with Valdes but every goalkeeper makes mistakes and I won't forget all of the quality
performances he's put in because of a few blunders.

And the people saying Pinto should have started would probably have moaned if he did. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

 

[Deco 20]

I like you, Badger. Top quality name too, you should post more

 

[Badger]

Sorry, but no way VV is better than Neuer and Cech. How great a GK is should be dependent on just how much of a role he has played in his clubs titles and success.VV played a huge part for couple of seasons, but lets face it, Bayern o=and Chelsea (well Chelsea of 04-10), even Madrid depend on their keepers a lot lot more than Barca in order to win games. VV has also been solely to blame for some Barca losses, and even some competition exists (Such as UCl 06-07)

Bit of a contradiction?

Neuer has won nothing of note with Bayern Munich and he has in fact made many mistakes which have cost Bayern. He's still a good goalkeeeper though.

 

[Deco 20]

Sorry, but no way VV is better than Neuer and Cech. How great a GK is should be dependent on just how much of a role he has played in his clubs titles and success.VV played a huge part for couple of seasons, but lets face it, Bayern o=and Chelsea (well Chelsea of 04-10), even Madrid depend on their keepers a lot lot more than Barca in order to win games. VV has also been solely to blame for some Barca losses, and even some competition exists (Such as UCl 06-07)

All the three CL finals we've won during this millennia then? He's been superb

 

[estranged]

Valdes is a great keeper no doubt, he wouldn't have 3 CLs and 5 La ligas if he was shit, however the point I'm making here is that he's not quite as good as some cules make him out to be, for me there are quite a few keepers better than him. Lets hope that from now on, Tito tells him to boot the ball whenever a forward is within a few feet of him.