10 - Lionel Messi - v1
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Excellent post Phat, very well written...
The only thing preventing that post from being perfect is the 'Zidane is overrated part'
He is though, he's deified by so many people. He's not in the same class as Maradona and Messi. He's a class below with Ronaldinho, Brazilian Ronaldo, etc
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You're not even a real journalism
Am i the only one who thinks Xavi is the best in the world? I mean look at him dominating Internationals aswell the guys ridiculous, Messi obviously is outstanding but imo Xavi is the best
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Yes we saw your post the first time, posting it again won't be any more convincing. Anyways lets say OK, Pele is the greatest ever, but he should seriously shut the f up and stop commenting on how Messi is inferior to him every month, if he was truly a great and he believed it he wouldn't even draw comparisons between himself and player x. You know the guy has an agenda when he says "I hope Neymar doesn't end up like Messi"
what a jackass. Greats don't talk out of their asses so often as Pele does.
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I saw Pele play, a couple times in the U.S. Once was an exhibition, the other time he was old, but his magic still shone. It's not possible to be better than Pele.
We are so fortunate to be able to see Messi play all these games during his prime, with such an incredible team. These comparisons are silly, what makes Messi a miracle is not whether or not he is the best of all time. The permanent level of football antagonism between Brazil and Argentina is a blast, I hope they square off next month.
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Just Chasing perfection
Messi is an Artist ,, the rest paints houses
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Messi plays well in the national team too! He can give wonderful ball too, not just Xavi! Messi is far better, than Xavi!
knicks
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Hahahaaha..wrong direction
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great picture, thanks for sharing!
thats what messi does best, send defenders to coffee
thats what messi does best, send defenders to coffee
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fixed. Oh Messi >>>>>>>>>>>>>.PELE
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to Phatronaldo:
It is typical anti-pele argument. Defending back in Brazil was Bad back in those days etc. etc., they didn't foucs on defending as much so lets belittle Pele's achivements blah blah blah.
Did Pele not score against the great AC Milan side of Trappatoni? I guess that AC Milan side who were European Champions at the time didn't foucs on defense, therefore Pele scoring against them means nothing. Same goes for Pele against Benfica who were also European Champions at the time when his Santos beat them in the World Club Cup Final(Intercontinental Cup), Peles 2nd triumph in that competition. I guess all his achievements in the game mean nothing unless he scores against teams from Europe eh? All his goals in Brazilian league mean nothing therefore all those football greats(players and managers) who swear he is the best ever are crazy for even contemplating mentioning him in that bracket eh?
I guess that defenders never tried stopping Pele with what was tantamount to assault? People say there was less focus on defending in Brazilian leauge back then, just look at how defenders tried to stop Pele on youtube and all the assaults he had to put up with. People think Messi gets kicked bad thesedays, just youtube Pele and fouls.
I guess the fact that almost all of the Brazil squad that won 2 of 3 world cups with Pele played their league football in Brazil means that Brazilian league football back then was so bad that the goals Pele scored in that league may as well be tantamount to nothing!
I grow tired of that rhetoric. Back in those days the Brazilian league was considered one of the best in World football by many old timers.
As for the 1285 goals, yes I know that includes all the goals he scored on World tour with Santos. I don't remember claiming differently? Santos back in those days are what Barcelona/RealMadrid(Zizou & Co.) is today to many fans worldwide.
All this talk of Football didn't start till the 80's is pathetic. If Pele at 16 was playing today with all todays medicine and training methods, he would still go on to be considered best ever in my opinion.
Pele is the best ever, that is my opinion and if you don't agree with it. that is perfectly fine. But to belittle all goals he ever scored in Brazil, because you say the league has less foucs on defense is quiite pathetic in my opinion. I don't recall any other 16 year olds around that time being Top Goal Scorer in Brazil, espcially if the league was so terrible defensively as you claim. Must be why Brazil won the world cup 3 times in that time period, cause they can't defend properly because of the league they come from.
Messi is a football GOD for sure, and he is in the same bracket as Pele, but for me, no one is bettre than Pele. It's my opinion and the opinion of many other football fans and you are not going to change it with your biased hatchet job on his achivements.
Yes Pele is an an insecure A**HOLE for his comments(reminds me of Mourinho) but still the best ever for me.
It is typical anti-pele argument. Defending back in Brazil was Bad back in those days etc. etc., they didn't foucs on defending as much so lets belittle Pele's achivements blah blah blah.
Did Pele not score against the great AC Milan side of Trappatoni? I guess that AC Milan side who were European Champions at the time didn't foucs on defense, therefore Pele scoring against them means nothing. Same goes for Pele against Benfica who were also European Champions at the time when his Santos beat them in the World Club Cup Final(Intercontinental Cup), Peles 2nd triumph in that competition. I guess all his achievements in the game mean nothing unless he scores against teams from Europe eh? All his goals in Brazilian league mean nothing therefore all those football greats(players and managers) who swear he is the best ever are crazy for even contemplating mentioning him in that bracket eh?
I guess that defenders never tried stopping Pele with what was tantamount to assault? People say there was less focus on defending in Brazilian leauge back then, just look at how defenders tried to stop Pele on youtube and all the assaults he had to put up with. People think Messi gets kicked bad thesedays, just youtube Pele and fouls.
I guess the fact that almost all of the Brazil squad that won 2 of 3 world cups with Pele played their league football in Brazil means that Brazilian league football back then was so bad that the goals Pele scored in that league may as well be tantamount to nothing!
I grow tired of that rhetoric. Back in those days the Brazilian league was considered one of the best in World football by many old timers.
As for the 1285 goals, yes I know that includes all the goals he scored on World tour with Santos. I don't remember claiming differently? Santos back in those days are what Barcelona/RealMadrid(Zizou & Co.) is today to many fans worldwide.
All this talk of Football didn't start till the 80's is pathetic. If Pele at 16 was playing today with all todays medicine and training methods, he would still go on to be considered best ever in my opinion.
Pele is the best ever, that is my opinion and if you don't agree with it. that is perfectly fine. But to belittle all goals he ever scored in Brazil, because you say the league has less foucs on defense is quiite pathetic in my opinion. I don't recall any other 16 year olds around that time being Top Goal Scorer in Brazil, espcially if the league was so terrible defensively as you claim. Must be why Brazil won the world cup 3 times in that time period, cause they can't defend properly because of the league they come from.
Messi is a football GOD for sure, and he is in the same bracket as Pele, but for me, no one is bettre than Pele. It's my opinion and the opinion of many other football fans and you are not going to change it with your biased hatchet job on his achivements.
Yes Pele is an an insecure A**HOLE for his comments(reminds me of Mourinho) but still the best ever for me.
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