10 - Lionel Messi - v2

[Daemul]

"Big black"? That says everything about this video.

I lol'ed so hard when that line came up

 

[Daemul]

Someone should tell Messis' lawyer though that paying the requested corrective payments in advance and then plead not guilty is generally a bad idea.
They could have easily avoided this whole affair if they made use of Royal Decree 667/2005, more well known as the Beckham Law, until 2010 or by getting a tax amnesty later. But well, some people think they'll never get caught.

No matter the result, it's mission accomplished for the spanish authorities. They picked a high value target, thereby hopefully triggering panic in other tax evaders who'll now most likely run for a tax amnesty, a law proven to be unsuccessful - at least up until now.

THIS.

The whole point of this is to get potential tax evaders to rethink what they plan on doing. Messi's Lawyer made it easy for the spanish authorities to pick him as an example though

 

[DennyCrane]

IF Schinocca is the mastermind behind this, and given that he betrayed them before, their strategy doesn't seem too foolish though. Makes messi seem the victim who now try to make amends.

Well, at this point there wasn't much else to do. Although, paying the corrective payment might be seen as a plea of guilty, that will be up for the court to decide. If they decide to take that route, they better file a claim for regress against Schinocca too or the whole idea crumbles like house of cards.

Paying taxes is a personal responsibility though. Appointing a third party to handle ones' tax declaration falls into the sphere of responsibility of the tax payer. If anyone could roll of responsibility by appointing a third party it'd be goodnight vienna. Scapegoating Schinocca could even backfire at this point since he might want to claim an offence for false accusation.
Abstracting away from this, how plausible is it to point the finger at Schinocca when there are also irregularities in 2010 and 2011 ?

Edit: The only way Leo can evade a sentence would be when his father takes full responsibility of the doings; which would also mean that Leo has to reliably deny any knowledge of his fathers' dealings which will be difficult since, without actually seeing them, there are most likely a lot of Leos' signatures to be found on the relevant documents. If he can pull this of, this might end like the Steffi/Peter Graf trial.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Well, at this point there wasn't much else to do. Although, paying the corrective payment might be seen as a plea of guilty, that will be up for the court to decide. If they decide to take that route, they better file a claim for regress against Schinocca too or the whole idea crumbles like house of cards.

Paying taxes is a personal responsibility though. Appointing a third party to handle ones' tax declaration falls into the sphere of responsibility of the tax payer. If anyone could roll of responsibility by appointing a third party it'd be goodnight vienna. Scapegoating Schinocca could even backfire at this point since he might want to claim an offence for false accusation.
Abstracting away from this, how plausible is it to point the finger at Schinocca when there are also irregularities in 2010 and 2011 ?

Edit: The only way Leo can evade a sentence would be when his father takes full responsibility of the doings; which would also mean that Leo has to reliably deny any knowledge of his fathers' dealings which will be difficult since, without actually seeing them, there are most likely a lot of Leos' signatures to be found on the relevant documents. If he can pull this of, this might end like the Steffi/Peter Graf trial.

It looks like the Spanish authorities wanted both Leo and his father to plea guilty and pay an additional penalty of 10mil euros, a deal that the Messis rejected. If this goes to trial and if Leo is found guilty, he will have to pay 20mil on top of a suspended one-year sentence. I just pray that he will be found not guilty and this whole thing doesn't get more media attention that it does today. Let's end this quickly.

 

[FCBarca]

Let's not forget the 'game is rigged' in Spain and that particularly applies to the legal system...Ask Garzón what he thinks of the justice system in Spain

 

[Daemul]

It looks like the Spanish authorities wanted both Leo and his father to plea guilty and pay an additional penalty of 10mil euros, a deal that the Messis rejected. If this goes to trial and if Leo is found guilty, he will have to pay 20mil on top of a suspended one-year sentence. I just pray that he will be found not guilty and this whole thing doesn't get more media attention that it does today. Let's end this quickly.

If Messi gets found guilty how long will the one-year sentence be suspended for? Can it be put off until he retires or is there a set period like say 5 years?

 

[Luftstalag14]

If Messi gets found guilty how long will the one-year sentence be suspended for? Can it be put off until he retires or is there a set period like say 5 years?

I have read that it does not have to be served because they will be considered "first time offenders", I really have no idea. Very confusing.

 

[kollegah]

today i think we see messi magic

 

[suckabov]

Scapegoating Schinocca could even backfire at this point since he might want to claim an offence for false accusation.
Abstracting away from this, how plausible is it to point the finger at Schinocca when there are also irregularities in 2010 and 2011 ?

Their claim is (and this is also included in the original accusation) that he, along with Jorge Messi, set up the shell companies in South America and basically masterminded the whole deal this issue is based on.

Edit: The only way Leo can evade a sentence would be when his father takes full responsibility of the doings; which would also mean that Leo has to reliably deny any knowledge of his fathers' dealings which will be difficult since, without actually seeing them, there are most likely a lot of Leos' signatures to be found on the relevant documents. If he can pull this of, this might end like the Steffi/Peter Graf trial.

This is the strategy they're going for, as Messi's father has already claimed full responsibility and Leo announced he doesn't "understand any of this". Which isn't any news to the court though, given that the original claim mentioned Jorge as the brain behind this anyway.

I lol'ed so hard when that line came up

Me too, but wtf?

 

[CatalinR10]

Messi to score a hatrick

 

[DonAK]

If Messi gets found guilty how long will the one-year sentence be suspended for? Can it be put off until he retires or is there a set period like say 5 years?

It usually means that he has to spend a year in prison if he commits the same offence again. Messi would be under probation of a certain amount of time and if he remains free of any such thing then the suspended sentence will be erased.

PS: Speaking from a legal perspective only. Im not saying or implying that Messi is guilty in any way in case some people think so.......

 

[Antimadridista1]

Messi out for Xavi, looks like he's injured once again... Fuck it.

 

[Flavia]

Messi to score a hatrick

You're jinxing him

 

[Mitchell1978]

Messi out for Xavi, looks like he's injured once again... Fuck it.

 

[Antimadridista1]

Can't see us winning against Celtic without him.