10 - Lionel Messi - v3

[Morten]

Ronaldo is great, and considering team success, you can argue he has been better than Messi this year. But see how I mention team success. Because statistically, they were very close.

But Messi's peak is miles from what Ronaldo's peak is.

Let's consider this year which many consider to be Messi's "down" year.
2014 calendar year stats for Messi through today: 53 goals (club/country), 21 assists

for Ronaldo: 55 goals (club/country), 19 assists.

If you want to add them and look at goals accounted for, they're pretty much dead even. DEAD EVEN.

Now, people are hailing this as Ronaldo's greatest individual season, which it is.

But let's look at Messi's greatest season: 91 goals in a calendar year. And Messi repeatedly beats Ronaldo in assists.

It's not close if you want to compare whose peak is better. It's Messi's by miles. And that's being nice.

But last year, they were close. But club success for Ronaldo will allow him to win it (along with a great run in goals to start this Liga campaign).

Messi dropped in form. He came down to Ronaldo's level. But laughable to think Ronaldo is in Messi's league if you want to talk about career or their place in history.

There's a reason Messi is compared with Pele and Maradona. Ronaldo rare, if ever is.

Where to begin, there is alot to correct here. You forgot Ronaldo has 5 less games or something, so they are almost dead even, with Ronaldo having played less game. This might be Messis down year, but its not Ronaldos greatest year either, not statistically Last year he had at least 70 goal,still some distance, but not miles away. Ronaldo is also often mentioned as one of the greatest ever. Messi had/has a higher top level, i do t question that. Outside of the occasional 2012 and 2013, there is very little difference between them statistically.

 

[doublehh03]

Where to begin, there is alot to correct here. You forgot Ronaldo has 5 less games or something, so they are almost dead even, with Ronaldo having played less game. This might be Messis down year, but its not Ronaldos greatest year either, not statistically Last year he had at least 70 goal,still some distance, but not miles away. Ronaldo is also often mentioned as one of the greatest ever. Messi had/has a higher top level, i do t question that.

It IS Messi's down year, considering Barcelona's struggles in the past year and no titles.

In terms of individual and team success, it IS Ronaldo's greatest year.

I don't question Ronaldo as one of the greatest ever. He is. But he's not going to be in the pantheon among some of the greatest of all time (Pele, Maradona, and Messi who's already there).

 

[Luftstalag14]

Where to begin, there is alot to correct here. You forgot Ronaldo has 5 less games or something, so they are almost dead even, with Ronaldo having played less game. This might be Messis down year, but its not Ronaldos greatest year either, not statistically Last year he had at least 70 goal,still some distance, but not miles away. Ronaldo is also often mentioned as one of the greatest ever. Messi had/has a higher top level, i do t question that. Outside of the occasional 2012 and 2013, there is very little difference between them statistically.

Stats don't tell the whole story.

And again, Ronaldo himself has said that this is his best form, why argue with the man himself?

 

[Morten]

Stats don't tell the whole story.

And again, Ronaldo himself has said that this is his best form, why argue with the man himself?

I know, but ask Ronaldo back in spring if he tought he was in his best form, i think you would have had a different answer. He was mediocre the last months of the season, by his standard, so its not all sunshine and glory. Much came down to the constant injuries, but it is what it is. Stats doesnt tell everything as you said, for some reason i always found the messi from 2010 to be a better player than the stat machine he was in 2012. It may sound strange, but thats just me. I also think Ronaldo was at his absolute best in the season we won the league, even if he has had better stats later.

 

[doublehh03]

The top 3 nomination is Messi's 8th straight since 07, another record.

 

[Kerrybai]

I know, but ask Ronaldo back in spring if he tought he was in his best form, i think you would have had a different answer. He was mediocre the last months of the season, by his standard, so its not all sunshine and glory. Much came down to the constant injuries, but it is what it is. Stats doesnt tell everything as you said, for some reason i always found the messi from 2010 to be a better player than the stat machine he was in 2012. It may sound strange, but thats just me. I also think Ronaldo was at his absolute best in the season we won the league, even if he has had better stats later.

Funnily enough I think Ronaldo was at his best in 07/08 with United, and was also a far more entertaining and exciting player.

 

[linetty]

 

[Ursegor]

The fan who threw the watter bottle has been caught on camera.

 

[linetty]

Fake, Messi was hit by a coin.

 

[Flavia]

Balls from the cl and liga records, signed by the players:

Neymar: "Best ever. Congrats, my idol" (such a fanboy, it's cute)
Busi: "One more... You're big. Congrats for these and the ones yet to come"
Alba: "Another record, my friend. Never stop, phenomenon. You're something else"
Rafinha: Simply the best ever. Congrats"
Xavi: Historical! For the best ever. I'm really happy, machine."

 

[TornAndFrayed]

fake, ronaldo wasn't in the stadium

 

[DonAK]

I wonder what Douglas wrote :eusa_think:

 

[DonAK]

From one Dictator to another Dictator.......

North Corea hopes to convince Messi to visit a youth football academy that was recently inaugurated in the capital Pyongyang. [via sport]

 

[Blaugrana Bull]

I wonder what Douglas wrote :eusa_think:

"Lolz I still don't know what I'm doing here. Anyway, congrats Leo."

 

[Jadentheman]

Man guys I would kill to have past games from 2004-2006 in true HD glory

I know they are hiding those feeds somewhere. this is incredible, miles better than the other clips posted in 240p quality.