10 - Lionel Messi - v4

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Luftstalag14

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Lionel Messi vs #COL
Shots - 5
Chances Created - 3
Key Passes - 5
Touches - 72
Dribbles - 13
Passes - 37
Passing Acc - 70.4%
Fouled - 9
 

Luftstalag14

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Messi: “It's terrible what it costs me to score with Argentina. We played the best game in the tournament.” #Chile2015

Messi: “We created situations everywhere and luckily we advanced on penalties. We didn't score but got lucky in the penalties.”

Messi: “I would have liked to score but the important thing is that we advanced. It doesn't matter now if we play Brazil or Paraguay.”
 

doublehh03

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He was fouled so many damn times it was ridiculous. Several runs of his were stopped b/c a defender just blocked his path and ref just said play on. Patheitc.
 

footyfan

Calma, calma
For not stopping play while the ref had whistled for a corner....even though no one heard him...

AFA should appeal this because Messi will miss the final if he gets carded in the SF.

Don't they get wiped out after this game? The whole point is that a card in the quarter and a card in the semi should not rule you out of the final. Right?

Edit: You are correct. CONMEBOL is fucked. lol

http://www.conmebol.com/en/06192015...ules-tournament-when-player-receives-warnings
 
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Chainsaw

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Yet all over the internet its made out as if he was as mediocre or even worse than di maria.

It's because everywhere is not Barcaforum where Messi the GOAT is always rated "brilliant" everytime he make "statistically" good passes and dribbling. The fact is the expectations from Messi are way higher than just setting good stats by making successful dribbles and passes on the middle of the pitch. He's supposed to be the one lifting the team forward as the captain and the best player in the world, and bail the team out when the time get tough. It's not that Messi was crap. It's just that for the standards he sets with Barcelona his level obviously drop while playing with Argentina. Even his finishing goes awkward.
 

Lomar1o

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It's because everywhere is not Barcaforum where Messi the GOAT is always rated "brilliant" everytime he make "statistically" good passes and dribbling. The fact is the expectations from Messi are way higher than just setting good stats by making successful dribbles and passes on the middle of the pitch. He's supposed to be the one lifting the team forward as the captain and the best player in the world, and bail the team out when the time get tough. It's not that Messi was crap. It's just that for the standards he sets with Barcelona his level obviously drop while playing with Argentina. Even his finishing goes awkward.
the only problem he has with argentina is his finishing. he puts his all in argentina shirt, rarely you will see messi playing like a madman like he did yesterday, he was doing EVERYTHING but his teammates couldn't return passes to him, what do you expect him to do, dribble past everyone? this is ridiculous. even some criminal fouls against him aren't called, like cuadrado's challenge late in the game. he is actually BEASTING and creating stuff out of nothing, being marked by THREE players he manages to go on a dribble, make a pass to a free player who will indeed FUCK UP. messi was immense bar his finishing. just watch the individual highlights or better rewatch the game
 

Bran the Greenseer

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He needs to stop passing to Di Maria when its clear he's having a bad game, specifically when there are other options I think he may be too used to passing it off to Neymar on the left so he just automatically thinks thats always a good option.
 

footyfan

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the only problem he has with argentina is his finishing. he puts his all in argentina shirt, rarely you will see messi playing like a madman like he did yesterday, he was doing EVERYTHING but his teammates couldn't return passes to him, what do you expect him to do, dribble past everyone? this is ridiculous. even some criminal fouls against him aren't called, like cuadrado's challenge late in the game. he is actually BEASTING and creating stuff out of nothing, being marked by THREE players he manages to go on a dribble, make a pass to a free player who will indeed FUCK UP. messi was immense bar his finishing. just watch the individual highlights or better rewatch the game

Argentina are a mess tactically, and Messi doesn't help because sometimes it feels like he's hiding from the ball or he goes and stands far away from the action. When he gets the ball, it's a different matter - he shows more a lot more intensity than he does at Barca, but the rest of the time it's like he's not even on the pitch. For instance, you barely see him keep up with his teammates on counter-attacks.

I'm not saying his individual level drops, but it's a more erratic and less predictable Messi with Argentina. And he suffers from it because his best play comes with combination with his teammates, which is not possible when you have ball-hogs or not enough time to develop chemistry. The past 3 World Cups have been won by teams whose core is formed with players from the same club. Juventus and Italy in 2006, Barcelona and Spain in 2010, Bayern and Germany in 2014. There's a reason it happens. Unfortunately, this is and probably never will be an option for Argentina because their best players go to European countries, and no European club (bar possibly Inter) will ever have an Argentina majority in its starting lineup.
 

raskolnikov

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Argentina are a mess tactically, and Messi doesn't help because sometimes it feels like he's hiding from the ball or he goes and stands far away from the action. When he gets the ball, it's a different matter - he shows more a lot more intensity than he does at Barca, but the rest of the time it's like he's not even on the pitch. For instance, you barely see him keep up with his teammates on counter-attacks.

I'm not saying his individual level drops, but it's a more erratic and less predictable Messi with Argentina. And he suffers from it because his best play comes with combination with his teammates, which is not possible when you have ball-hogs or not enough time to develop chemistry. The past 3 World Cups have been won by teams whose core is formed with players from the same club. Juventus and Italy in 2006, Barcelona and Spain in 2010, Bayern and Germany in 2014. There's a reason it happens. Unfortunately, this is and probably never will be an option for Argentina because their best players go to European countries, and no European club (bar possibly Inter) will ever have an Argentina majority in its starting lineup.
I agree with you but people who say he is playing badly are off as well. Yesterday he was easily the best player after Ospina. His finishing is just off bur besides that given the circumstances his passing and especially his dribbling are great. Especially when colombia got a free pass to foul hhim constantly. Same with the first two games.
 

footyfan

Calma, calma
Of course he's not playing badly, but he's also not playing brilliant and is not having the impact that is expected of him. He has not shown his best side in any of the 4 games at the Copa so far, not even against Jamaica.
 
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