10 - Lionel Messi - v4

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JamDav1982

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Neymar skied his best chance too. And ofc the better chances are the ones converted. In the 2nd half the team slowed down not only because of Messi. It happened after the goal. Complacency and such. Good it happened now, to keep them on their toes. It could had been a goal fest, just one of those days. Looking for culprits is just stupid.

All players will miss chances.

The best chances created are not the ones converted. If thats your logic fine but I dont agree.

As a team Barca were more dangerous in first half when centred on getting ball to Neymar, second half to Messi far too often. Not blaming Messi for that.
 
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Flavia

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Suarez also had pretty few chances. He was making runs a lot, but those were not picked up with passes. Also, playing for the passing of time hurt us. We tried this last year against Sevilla and it happened the same. Need to score and push for the 2nd goal to kill games off, instead of trying to keep the 1-0 passing at slow tempo with the whole team up the pitch.

Yep. We didn't play well. Busi and Rakitic were pretty bad. Plus one moment where Masch and Pique were caught napping, and a draw.
 

Observer

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As usual, unless messi scores 3 wondergoals every game, it's all doom and gloom.
And it's always the same garbage "arguments", he doesn't run, he's lethargic etc.
You guys need to realise that you are horrible fans.

Being fair & critical of your favorite player its the most respectable thing you can do to him as a fan. Complacency and fanboyism does not help.
 
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Frejsgodes

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As usual, unless messi scores 3 wondergoals every game, it's all doom and gloom.
And it's always the same garbage "arguments", he doesn't run, he's lethargic etc.
You guys need to realise that you are horrible fans.

You need to realize you are a horrible and annoying fanboy who can't comprehend and/or accept valid criticism of Messi.
 

FC B

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They shouldn't have played him that much aorund the box. He is clearly lacking match rhythm and form. Had Barca played much like before Messi returend we might have got a better result.
 
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Flavia

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All players will miss chances.

The best chances created are not the ones converted. If thats your logic fine but I dont agree.

As a team Barca were more dangerous in first half when centred on getting ball to Neymar, second half to Messi far too often. Not blaming Messi for that.

Messi was playing false 9 in the 1st half. He changed to rw in the 2nd, so if anyone is to blame, is Enrique. I don't blame the players. A game like this happens every season. Many chances, not much goals.
 

Blaugrana Bull

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Ofc he did.
You need to read the troll posts.

Why react to troll posts? Obviously there is no need to take someone seriously who talks about retirement and that bs.
But concerning his running and defense input: If you are not able to help your team by scoring and losing tons of balls due to bad decisions, at least help in defense and run your ass off. That is what every player should do.
 

6 Ballons for Messi

but what if he wins 7??
Being fair & critical of your favorite player its the most respectable thing you can do to him as a fan. Complacency and fanboyism does not help.

No, it's not respectable at all, it's actually like spitting on his contribution.
And I'm not being a fanboy, I'm the first to say he had a below average game by his standards, it's you guys that are hating.
 

Mitchell1978

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yep but in the meantime attacks should not be going through him.
Neymar is in better form creatively, he should be leading attacks till when messi recovers his form

maybe running attacks through him is partly whats needed to have him return to full match fitness
 

JamDav1982

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Messi was playing false 9 in the 1st half. He changed to rw in the 2nd, so if anyone is to blame, is Enrique. I don't blame the players. A game like this happens every season. Many chances, not much goals.

Players still looked for Messi too often in stupid areas as they tend to do. Said already it is fault of players and coaches for changing a game Barca were totally dominant in.
 

FC B

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yep but in the meantime attacks should not be going through him.
Neymar is in better form creatively, he should be leading attacks till when messi recovers his form

I guess Messi can't recover his form unless he is the main man, constructing, passing and finishing.
 

gasgas

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The better chances are the ones converted, though. The team didn't play well. Messi being singled out is unfair.

mh okay!
so if we take the 1-3 el classico of last season as an example.
the goal neymar scored after receiving a long crossfield ball, and dribbling past two/three before scoring came from a better chance than that messi miss one-on-one with casillas that came from an inch perfect suarez cross? :amazed:
 

Ghostmaster

Danger Ahead
Suarez also had pretty few chances. He was making runs a lot, but those were not picked up with passes. Also, playing for the passing of time hurt us. We tried this last year against Sevilla and it happened the same. Need to score and push for the 2nd goal to kill games off, instead of trying to keep the 1-0, passing at slow tempo when the whole team is up the pitch. That's asking for trouble. Busi missed a pass that left them 2 vs 2, with just Pique and Masche behind the ball. Can't do that and hope to keep a 1-0 fragile lead.
If we had someone on the bench who could add energy as a sub maybe it would have been different, but...
 
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