I can't believe someone is saying Messi isn't better than someone else because he hasn't won a world cup. Shaking my head right now.
-George Best is worse than Muller and Gotze is he? Sorry, he isn't as good an international player . Players are measured by ability, how they transfer that ability to games and what that ability achieves on the pitch. Best will alwats be better than Muller even though Muller by your measurements is better BOTH at club level and international level. Hint: we dont measure a player 100% on what their teams won.
The team Maradona played with in the epic 86 World Cup is no where near as average as history, in its understandable attempt to romanticise the whole thing, has led people to believe. He played with some great players, in a good side- and the 86 win was not won single handedly. (Still amaxing obviously).
He played agaisnt teams easier to get past than today, where tactically and technically defending is not with todays standards. And he wasn't marked by 3 men at a time. He played in a better team than Argentina 2014, and bus parking wasn't common.
Leo single handedly dragged ARG throgh the group stages more than Diego pulled ARG in 86 through the whole tournament. All while having his worst ever season, out of shape, having injury issues and with the team around him having brainfarts, minus Javier.
Forget the final. That ONE game. Forget it a second. Up until that point Leo scored buckets of goals for Argentina, had a wonderful career, won them games, pulled them through, and played better than anyone ever. But because his teammate didnt finish a chance in one game, he's not the greatest. Imagine Gonzalo scored that chance. You'd be saying Leo was the greatest, club and international. How in the hell can one action of another player make such a difference to how good Leo is or isn't?
There is no such thing as 'best player nationally but not club'. You are either a better player thsn someone or not. Sure you can perform better in certain competitions than another, obviously. Its a team game, which means certain players are always at an advantage internationally. If anything, its club level thats a more accurate reflection of a player.
Messi is a better player than Diego.
Because ability wise he simply is. And he pushed that ability to its max at every opportunity and performed at the highest level the world has ever seen for what will be a decade. No one has ever played better than him. Ever. For club or country. Regardless of whether a teammate put a chance away to win the WC or not. No one has ever played better or been more talented or consistently used that talent. Period. He performed as best he could in bad circumstances for Argentina, and a 'poor, injured' Messi still pulled them through the group with brilliance.
No one has ever been better. Spkitting it up into 'internationally and club' is just a way to diminsh his brilliance. And it makes no sense. Why not split things up into who plays better on a Sunday versus a Saturday, who plays better on with red kitted clubs versus white ones? 'I mean that Stefano fellow was good, but only really for white clubs, he never really shone for a red kit club, which I feel holds him back from the likes of Gerrard.' Wut.
He is the greatest theres ever been. Get over it y'all.
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Some players don't have the luxury of being born in to a powerful football nation, so the limit of their ambition could never be fulfilled at International Level, due to no fault of his own. That would mean that a prodigy that happened to be born in Luxembourg, for example, can never even be considered as the Greatest Footballer of All-Time, no matter what he achieved with his club.
