FinBarcelonafan
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Brilliant finish. Saves us again and again. Out of words for him.
10 - Lionel Messi - v5
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RMU ReBorn
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You see Mr Cruyff ,just because we didn't dominate possession it doesn't mean that we got dominated . What the fuck did we managed against such a compact defense back in 2012 ? . Valverede has made us comfortable defending without the ball and gave them the taste of their medicine by allowing them to attack us in camp Nou and Messi exploited the vast dimensions of camp nou when chelsea were attacking . check out demebelle's goal it came after a clearance from Umtiti of a Hazard shot
Cruyff-Total Football
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I'm not estimating based on possession. It's based on the clear cut chances. Chelsea had more clear cut chances. The difference in scoreline is because of the difference in the shot accuracy. Tactically, chelsea were better despite having inferior team to Barca.
JamDav1982
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Chelse never had more clear cut chances.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
They had more shots in both legs and most were clear cut chances. They hit the woodwork twice in the first leg. Especially in the second game they had a number of dangerous opportunities right at our box that broke down at the last second (blocked shots, last ditch tackles/interceptions). They exploited the hell out of our flanks, mainly Roberto, and threatened us constantly. Barca were far more clinical, and that is 100% down to Messi. Dude had 4 total shots in both legs COMBINED and scored 3 goals from them.
Leo today was critical as always. That shot was perfectly hit and, no, the keeper should not have saved it (lol). Leo has the best technique at hitting shots from outside the box bar none. Only takes 1 small step to wind up, hits it low/hard to the corners and is almost always deadly accurate. He's the ONLY player I've ever seen so deliberately fool keepers on near post/far post placement time and time again. Even if its a miss, it often hits the woodwork or just barely grazes wide. No other player is as consistently threatening from distance, Coutinho comes close though. His 'effective' scoring range is the largest of any player, I'd wager he's more efficient and accurate with outside the box shots than Ronaldo is in the penalty area. He led Europe in goals from outside the box last season by FAR with like 15-17 or something, like 1/4 of his total seasons goals. He leads this year as well. Also lead Europe in hitting the woodwork last season and this season too (at an absurd rate this season).
Leo today was critical as always. That shot was perfectly hit and, no, the keeper should not have saved it (lol). Leo has the best technique at hitting shots from outside the box bar none. Only takes 1 small step to wind up, hits it low/hard to the corners and is almost always deadly accurate. He's the ONLY player I've ever seen so deliberately fool keepers on near post/far post placement time and time again. Even if its a miss, it often hits the woodwork or just barely grazes wide. No other player is as consistently threatening from distance, Coutinho comes close though. His 'effective' scoring range is the largest of any player, I'd wager he's more efficient and accurate with outside the box shots than Ronaldo is in the penalty area. He led Europe in goals from outside the box last season by FAR with like 15-17 or something, like 1/4 of his total seasons goals. He leads this year as well. Also lead Europe in hitting the woodwork last season and this season too (at an absurd rate this season).
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JamDav1982
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Keeper should have saved that.
Not a howler but top keepers would expect to save it.
Messi presence alone lifted the game even if he was not in full flow.
Not a howler but top keepers would expect to save it.
Messi presence alone lifted the game even if he was not in full flow.
putogusiluz8
The Pale One
From the goalkeepers angle it looked as though Denis was going to receive the ball and then immediately Messi pops up behind the line of sight. It might have given that split second doubt that caused the save to not happen. Who knows.
JamDav1982
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The fact he had enough time to get down and get a hand on it and the defenders and his reaction I think shows he could have done better.
putogusiluz8
The Pale One
I agree. It certainly was saveable. But this shot by Messi seems to trouble keepers a lot. He beat Neuer at his post with a shot like that in 2015. Low and curling.
I agree. We defended more once it was a lead, sometimes less possession don't always mean inferior. Don't argue with EV's tactic, proof is we won, at quite a margin. Hitting post, blabla, never gonna happen with shit defense, I mean it would go in.
Cruyff-Total Football
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Dybala has similar shooting to Messi from what I've seen. Once, against us he shot from outside the box and started to celebrate only for Ter Stegen to make an extraordinary save.
RMU ReBorn
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Barca had more clear cut chances in 2012 . In the end we won nothing . 3-0 that's all what matters .
Messi outclassed them. That was the only difference.
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