10 - Lionel Messi - V6

[FCB1987]

Do we dare to get really bold and throw away the 2nd leg of the copa, at least play Messi as a sub in the game?

What matters far more is the CL game and the el Clasico league game.

Rather him play as a sub against Sevilla or even the league Clasico.

 

[Raketa10]

Right now it's hardly guaranteed we'll reach the CL quarters.

This team is fucking shit. All of them. Including the manager.

Something need to be done this summer.

Do some of you wonder how is possible that this team is shit after we bought basically all we could?! This team is NOT shit but the way we play is! We have many world class players but that doesn't mean anything when all we do is search for Messi. We could buy Mbappe, Neymar etc. and nothing would change.

 

[soul24rage]

Do we dare to get really bold and throw away the 2nd leg of the copa, at least play Messi as a sub in the game?

What matters far more is the CL game and the el Clasico league game. We beat Real Madrid in the 2nd league of the copa all we get is the bragging right for a couple of days. Not worth it.

Rather him play as a sub against Sevilla or even the league Clasico.

we have a good lead in the league and we are one game away from a cup final so I would sub him vs Sevilla.

 

[DonAK]

Do some of you wonder how is possible that this team is shit after we bought basically all we could?! This team is NOT shit but the way we play is. We have many world class players but that doesn't mean shit when all we do is search for Messi.

Suarez definitely is shit though.

 

[FCBfan22]

Vs. Sevilla we should try and fine-tune the Coutinho-Messi-Dembele attack in the first half. We can't go on with Suarez like this.

Then sub Messi and the other one that will start Clasico at HT (Be it Dembele or Cou).

 

[Sorin]

He deserves anything that is happening to him. He's the one pulling favors for Valverde and Suarez. Have no simpathy if he doesn't win anything on the European stage for his rest of his career.

 

[BBZ8800]

He is not surrounded by donkeys and his form in CL is his own fault. He needs to work on his stamina. He needs to start playing withought the ball to be able to win CL. He is indisputable GOAT but he needs to be used properly like in the first season under Lucho. Not every ball needs to go trough Messi and he can't drift to the middle evers fucking time. In this way he becomes to oredictable and all other players like Demebele or Coutinho become irrelevant and limited. He needs to realize that this is team sport and he can't win on his own.

I told that story in the past: two of my friends who are not Barca's fans commented on our teamplay last season against Roma, and basically, they were predicting our every move and were laughing, like:
Busi has the ball, he will pass to Messi now.
Messi will now pass to Alba.

A next action: we have the ball: now we will wait until Messi gets the ball in the middle at the edge of a box and then he will be surrounded by 3, he will try to dribble and lose the ball.

Basically, any football viewer knows how will our next action look like.
And then, teams like Getafe and Levante can't stop these actions since they suck and then we are living in a delusion how we are actually good and strong.

Btw, these are our all away matches since our 2015' CL title:
Lyon 0:0
Roma 3:0
Chelsea 1:1
Juve 3:0
Psg 4:0
Atletico 2:0
Arsenal 0:2

We scored on 2 matches out of 7.
And, in the last 6 matches (540 minutes of football), we scored only 1 goal on away knockout rounds matches.

And the same shit every season:
1. Messi is dead tired
2. we are passing to Messi all the time
3. he is in the middle, surrounded by 3 and easily neutralized

So, our problems in Europe are way deeper than "stupid" Rakitic and "stupid" Suarez.
I am not saying that those 2 are not guilty though.

But you would expect more than 1 goal in the last 540 minutes from a team led by Messi, right?
Maybe we have really turned into a team who is a killer of smaller teams in La liga, but who is an absolute shit in Europe against big boys?

 

[Raketa10]

Suarez definitely is shit though.

Yes he is.

 

[Luftstalag14]

we have a good lead in the league and we are one game away from a cup final so I would sub him vs Sevilla.

No, I would play him in Sevilla as we can't afford to drop points there (Atletico is on us and we have a hectic league schedule). To me Copa is really the least of our concerns, it is a meaningless trophy.

 

[pregra]

He deserves anything that is happening to him. He's the one pulling favors for Valverde and Suarez. Have no simpathy if he doesn't win anything on the European stage for his rest of his career.

This.

Also, with that salary he should be doing more in the CL knockouts.

 

[Mitchell1978]

No, I would play him in Sevilla as we can't afford to drop points there (Atletico is on us and we have a hectic league schedule). To me Copa is really the least of our concerns, it is a meaningless trophy.

Its not a meaningless trophy but clearly of lesser importance then the league and the CL, Sevilla away game is important, a good performance/win there and the team could get a boost from that.

 

[Richard.H]

He deserves anything that is happening to him. He's the one pulling favors for Valverde and Suarez. Have no simpathy if he doesn't win anything on the European stage for his rest of his career.

This is very true and something not many fans realize. Messi is vouching for both shitverde and Suarez. Messi does have a strange personality, seems like he values comfort more than winning

 

[George_Costanza]

So, our problems in Europe are way deeper than "stupid" Rakitic and "stupid" Suarez.
I am not saying that those 2 are not guilty though.

Of course, it's deeper because it has to do with the head coach first and foremost.

 

[cro-man]

He is not decisive enough in the final third and is too involved and trying to decide every game on his own. I mean i can understand him somehow because he is playing with awfull suarez. We are fc messi and today it was even more clear.

 

[MagIX]

Juve's starting midfield is Khedira-Pjanic-Matuidi and Mandzukic is their main striker. If Ronaldo outperforms Leo in the KO stages again, you can't use the teammate excuse this time.

as if Juventus were a poor team....
Juve is a very very good team, first at all you have to be a Team, the names come after.
Juve players know each other very well, they can almost play with their eyes closed, each player knows what to do on the pitch, they have a clear and well-defined game plan, all mixed with a strong team spirit. And this since years and with a serious management with smart
transfer market.
CR choose Juventus not for nothing.

We are not a team, we are 11 players who try to play together (even tough taken individually, we have better players).