10 - Lionel Messi - V6

serghei

Senior Member
Lol, big teams are usually more favored not because of corruption, but because they put the ref in more situations to make a mistake. A team that will have 20 attacks around the box and in the penalty box of the opponent is more likely to receive a soft penalty or to benefit from a dive, than a team that barely attacks all game.

It's purely a matter of sample size. Let's say on average a ref gets 10-15% of the decisions wrong in a game. If he has to judge 60 attacks from a team, and 20 attacks from the other team, than the 10% error rate means he will make 6 mistakes for the first team and only 2 for the 2nd team. Hence he would look like he's favoring one team, but in reality he's consistent with his errors.

Of course exception happen, but usually refs favor the big teams more because the big teams generate more situations that demand the ref intervention. The more situations a ref has to evaluate and make a decision, the more likely it is for him to make more mistakes for the attacking team.
 
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Pedro

La Masia
Guys we need to leave all this behind and look forward to the new season for FC Barcelona.

Let's hope Leo scores vs. Athletic Bilbao

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ebc_99

Active member
Really bad look for Messi to be saying Argentina should be in the final. That's cry-baby stuff.

It's a good look, from what I can see he is getting praised for his words and rightly so. Even some Chile players have come out and agreed with him. The only ones complaining are Ronaldo fans and some weird Barca fans on this site who criticise everything Messi does.

Everyone knows Argentina were screwed in the semi, everyone knows Conmebal is corrupt, everyone knows that he shouldn't have been sent off, and everyone knows the reason he was sent off is because of what he said after the Brazil game.
 

snowy

Well-known member
I would love for us to win the FIFA WC

Don't see why not :thumbsup:

Healthy and large population pyramid and projections combined with massive monetary influx. Only a matter of time amigo

[MENTION=2258]Hamzah[/MENTION] , do you see Football gaining popularity as well? It's growing fast in Canada *-*

yeah ebc, even Medel was saying he's totally with Messi on that one. Looked like a super friendly dude in the interview haha
 

Hardy

Senior Member
It's a good look, from what I can see he is getting praised for his words and rightly so. Even some Chile players have come out and agreed with him. The only ones complaining are Ronaldo fans and some weird Barca fans on this site who criticise everything Messi does.

Everyone knows Argentina were screwed in the semi, everyone knows Conmebal is corrupt, everyone knows that he shouldn't have been sent off, and everyone knows the reason he was sent off is because of what he said after the Brazil game.

no it's not, you say this only because is Messi, it's a good look only for losers.
 

Hamzah

High Definition Member
Don't see why not :thumbsup:

Healthy and large population pyramid and projections combined with massive monetary influx. Only a matter of time amigo

[MENTION=2258]Hamzah[/MENTION] , do you see Football gaining popularity as well? It's growing fast in Canada *-*

yeah ebc, even Medel was saying he's totally with Messi on that one. Looked like a super friendly dude in the interview haha

I’m not actually from these countries, my ancestors are, so it’s hard to say. From what I can see the younger generation is definitely getting into it. Cricket is still the most popular.

It would take some decades but the wealth in these places is increasing so as more people get into it there will be funding for facilities and foreigners might come and improve the league. Then the best players from these leagues could play in European leagues and maybe become good. I think they should take inspiration from Korea who have done quite well.

I’m surprised China isn’t better at football btw, they have all the ingredients.
 
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AURELIUS

Member
What exactly is wrong with someone speaking the truth ? Messi and his team have been cheated. They outplayed Brazil had two clear penalties denied and once again yesterday the red card decision was an utter joke. The whole tournament has been a farce with terrible pitches and officials and all directed to give Bolsonaro that right wing nutjob his trophy to crow about in the press. All about shady politics. Napout ought to be ashamed but I doubt he will be.

We have officials from Paraguay and Ecuador who referee in leagues where there are maybe two or three big derbies hardly ideal preparation for a world level tournament. Can you imagine any European referee doing what has been done ? They do not have insecurity complexes and are professionals. Now we have all the Ronaldo fan boys and Messi haters crawling out of the woodwork once again to try and belittle the man.

How the mighty have fallen ? The man is a colossus of football. One of the greatest to have ever played the game. If idiots are blinded by illogical hatred then let it be so. For the vast majority of neutrals the day he retires will be a sad day for the sport. I am glad he spoke out. He has the authority and power to make things happen and shine a light onto the murky nature of CONMEBOL. Chile managed to get their penalty without issue but mysteriously Argentina do not against the hosts.

As for the penalty claims against Argentina against Venezuela Foyth went shoulder to shoulder and no foul committed and Armani still had a covering defender behind him.
 

AURELIUS

Member
no it's not, you say this only because is Messi, it's a good look only for losers.

So after Byron Moreno in 2002 when Italy and then Spain were cheated by the officiating to allow South Korea to progress all Italians are losers as well ? What a stupid comment. When you see injustices you don't turn a blind eye to it and let it carry on. You speak up and speak the truth so it does not happen again.
 

abbbs97

New member
What exactly is wrong with someone speaking the truth ? Messi and his team have been cheated. They outplayed Brazil had two clear penalties denied and once again yesterday the red card decision was an utter joke. The whole tournament has been a farce with terrible pitches and officials and all directed to give Bolsonaro that right wing nutjob his trophy to crow about in the press. All about shady politics. Napout ought to be ashamed but I doubt he will be.

We have officials from Paraguay and Ecuador who referee in leagues where there are maybe two or three big derbies hardly ideal preparation for a world level tournament. Can you imagine any European referee doing what has been done ? They do not have insecurity complexes and are professionals. Now we have all the Ronaldo fan boys and Messi haters crawling out of the woodwork once again to try and belittle the man.

How the mighty have fallen ? The man is a colossus of football. One of the greatest to have ever played the game. If idiots are blinded by illogical hatred then let it be so. For the vast majority of neutrals the day he retires will be a sad day for the sport. I am glad he spoke out. He has the authority and power to make things happen and shine a light onto the murky nature of CONMEBOL. Chile managed to get their penalty without issue but mysteriously Argentina do not against the hosts.

As for the penalty claims against Argentina against Venezuela Foyth went shoulder to shoulder and no foul committed and Armani still had a covering defender behind him.

exactly this! this whole tournament, the refereeing has been an absolute joke. if anyone had actually watched the arg vs brazil game, they would know that Argentina were on the same level if not better than Brazil, they just got fucked with the refs being obviously against Argentina. and then the 3rd place match, the referee sending off Messi for doing nothing just makes the corruption claim look even more true. Messi is the most important figure in football right now and him saying that CONMEBOL is corrupt is huge. Chile players last night were even agreeing with Messi and they even said Argentina were being done dirty by the refs.
 

Xaviniesta

Senior Member
It's a good look, from what I can see he is getting praised for his words and rightly so. Even some Chile players have come out and agreed with him. The only ones complaining are Ronaldo fans and some weird Barca fans on this site who criticise everything Messi does.

Everyone knows Argentina were screwed in the semi, everyone knows Conmebal is corrupt, everyone knows that he shouldn't have been sent off, and everyone knows the reason he was sent off is because of what he said after the Brazil game.

How does him saying "argentina should be in the final" deserve praise? seems like you ignored that part, which was the only part my comment was referring to.

So when he goes back to training and tells arthur and coutinho that their win was illigetimate and that he was the one supposed to be in the final, they should just nod on and agree like that's the truth? lol
 

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