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11 - Ousmane Dembélé - V1
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Afromaticz
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Watchin that first touch must have hurt you deeply... Ive seen Dembele play live numerous times and whilst he's nowhere near the finished article there's one thing he certainly doesn't lack and that's a great first touch and ball control but hey I'll let u cook expert
Afromaticz
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The guy ain't goin anywhere and that's good
his team should at least contact liverpool. if he's promised a starting role it's an opportunity he'll never regret. barca can re-live their 2015 days with msn and raki-busquets if that's what they want
Hawk
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you're mistaken him for gordo suarez
BBZ8800
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He is not the biggest problem, but is also a problem.
Suarez is old and bad. He is a problem. But he can't leave now since we don't have a CF. Playing with Messi as a false 9 is not an option in a real world.
Rakitic, ok, old and bad.
Messi will be gone soon.
Busi, old and bad.
Pique, soon he will be too old.
Roberto, not a RB.
Semedo, is a RB, but not a good one.
Coutinho. A bad fit.
These are some main problems.
But also, there are other problems like:
Malcom: very very meh, we should sell him and try with someone new and hope that a new guy will be at least slightly better.
Dembele, ok-ish, but for Barca's attack we need more than what he is offering.
And still, even with Pep as a coach, with no injuries, I personally don't believe that he will ever come even close to what you guys are dreaming of. And without Pep and being injury prone and with lowish IQ and professionalism, a disaster is knocking at our doors.
So, my point is: you guys want to fix only problems with older guys while you are giving too much credit to younger guys.
I would sell both older guys who are not good enough AND youngsters who are not good enough.
Also, what I don't get, I have an impression, if I would make a poll here and asked our fans:
If you could pick only 1 out of these 2, which one would you rather have in our team in the next season:
1) Dembele
2) Griezmann
I have an impression that 70-80% of posters here would vote for Dembele.
And that is insane.
Griezmann is a finished product, won a World cup as their key man, played several good seasons at the highest level for Atletico in LA Liga and a CL.
Dembele: nothing. With him you only have: but WHAT IF?
So, people are too attached to young players and what if solutions.
So who should replace him?? We have a TON of Dembele haters but none can actually tell me a proper replacement besides Neymar or someone said Everton from Brazil LOL
When Dembele is fit and healthy he brings something to the team that no other player in the squad offers.
The same as with Neymar.
We were shit in La Liga in the last 18 Months with him in a team.
Without him, we played more or less the same or even better (results wise).
So, what have we actually lost with Neymar?
Someone could have asked the same: who will replace Neymar?
= well, nobody. We won La Liga with 442 with Iniesta-Busi-Raki-Paulinho, lol.
The same as with Dembele. Who will replace him?
= anyone.
Messi and Suarez in 442.
Messi, Suarez and Griezmann in 433.
Messi, Suarez, Griezmann and Neymar in 433.
Dembele didn't play for majority of the last 2 seasons and we won La Ligas.
Do you think that we would suddenly lose La Liga without Dembele.
For "smart" replies: but he brought some points... Lol. If he didn't play, SOME other player would have ACTUALLY played on his position and that guy would have also scored a goal here and there.
It is not as if: Dembele scored xx goals, and the other guy who would have played instead of him=would had 0 assists, 0 passes, 0 shots, 0 goals.
So, for La Liga, we are fine.
For a CL, we probably won't win it either way.
Anyway: if he will be gone this summer, this story is done.
If he'll stay, he won't play too much since we'll have 4 attackers infront of him in a pecking order.
Also, who knows whether he will stay injury free.
Also, if he won't play, based on his behavior till now, he will lose confidence, then he will be rusty, scared or too eager to prove himself in those rare minutes when he will play. That will lead to bad decisions on a field. That will lead to Suarez and teammates yelling at him. That will lead to him being benched again. And that will lead to even less confidence in him.
If we'll have these 4 guys infront of him, everything indicates that this will be Dembele's hardest and probably the worst season here.
And if he won't shine (which will be hard with not too much playing time and with his lower confidence), a club will probably sell him in the next summer.
I mean, if you look at our 4 attackers, Dembele's injury, his personality and confidence, then even if he'll stay, things aren't looking too bright for him.
I mean, this year he was often benched for a poor Coutinho. Sometimes even for Rafinha early in a season.
Imagine what will happen if we will have Griezmann and Neymar here.
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Riiiight. Anyone. Dude you have a mind of a politician. Long, repetitive speeches, and 0 solutions. If i think about it, i don t remember you providing any suggestions of how
to improve the team. At anytime. You just go by generalities like "big", "strong", "fast". And you just criticise. Because yeah, anyone can replace Barca player. Why do we even employ scouts, they are obviously waste of
resources. The board can just pick anyone for any position. They just need to be strong and fast professional. 1 psycho/medical test should cover that issue.
Talent doesn t matter at all. Those talented fuckers are just low iq divas.
Saladin
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Thx for sharing this, hilarious!
BBZ8800
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For the next season, you don't need Dembele.
We have Griezz/Neymar, Suarez, Messi attack.
Midfield Frenkie, and 2 out of Busi, Raki, Arthur, Vidal or even Griezz/Cou as Cams.
Defense is ok.
Why do you need a player for player direct replacement for Dembele?
And if you want, you'll get two superior players this summer.
The only problem is that these two will be able to play 3-4-5 seasons.
While Dembele could have played 10 seasons, on a paper.
Even though a no foreigner at Barca ever stayed more than 8 seasons.
And only 2 guys ever stayed for longer than 6 seasons.
But people are losing their minds when there is a chance that someone will stay here for 10 years.
Players change clubs often today.
Dembele either way won't stay too long.
Can you reply to me: if you could pick only one guy for the next 1-2 seasons, would you pick Dembele or Griezmann?
And why?
Let me guess: Dembele.
Why? =because he COULD turn into a great player one day, even though he is a weaker player than Griezmann today.
So, you are buying a "what if" option again.
A "what if" option, the favorite pick of 90% of Barca's fans.
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Ah yes. No suggestions, just cut off-s. No surprise there.
To answer your question, for the next season i would obviously pick Griezmann. But guess what? It s not one or the other, unless you apply
Valverde logic and you play just 3 guys in attack at all times. Subs are not in your plan? Unless you have Cou as a sub. In that case i ask you, what did Coutinho show to deserve a spot before Dembele? Why should he not be sold before
we even discuss selling Dembele? He was more expensive, is on higher vages and has showed less than Dembele.
The next question is, why the "1-2 seasons" limit? Who s gona play after that? Messi? Probably not. Suarez? Hopefully no. Rakitic? Busquets? Vidal?
What s you projection going forward? How would you build a team? You don t like Dembele, you don t like Arthur, you don t like Semedo...who s gona play for coach BBZ?
Do you have any ideas or are you limited to bitching about current crop?
BarcaMessi
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10/10 for the length and effort of BBZ's latest essays.
Can not comment on the accuracies
Can not comment on the accuracies
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A Dembele-Griezmann-Messi front line seems great to me. It is a mix of youth and experience, works well on a football level and each player fills their role and will complement each other. Each player can score and create. Griezmann’s intelligence and defensive workrate is the key to it, and it should run smoothly. The French connection will help chemistry and like someone said before Griezmann is a great friend/mentor for Dembele.
Suarez unfortunately can’t be moved but he is still a good rotation option and everyone should be fresh throughout the season.
Suarez unfortunately can’t be moved but he is still a good rotation option and everyone should be fresh throughout the season.
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