Gazzznigga
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What else were you expecting from members of a people who love their players dearly but wish them serious injury, ill luck, misfortunes and even death week in week out?
21 - Frenkie de Jong
- Thread starter Pedro
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You obviously never been to a football match.
Gazzznigga
Active member
Lol....Lord have mercy!!!
so, being at football matches make you a complete idiot, clueless, irrational and delusional to the point of wanting your own playes dead....hhmm!! Ok I get it now.
Eat more soy
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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After all the years Hansi could unleash the real Frenkie 🔥🔥🦁
L3v1s
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He's 27 years old and he's not getting any better. This is/was his peak, but maybe Flick can motivate him to get in decent form. What I'm trying to say is that he's not irreplaceable, and I'm fed up with his beta male persona. The club is still in financial trouble, and he's certainly not worth the salary he gets(whatever that is). Doing a quick research, turns out he doesnt earn 32m, but 19m gross. To that is added a fixed bonus of €4.2 million which takes his total fixed salary to €23.2 million. If he plays atleast 60% of the games this season he gets another 2m. Total amount he can earn is €25.2 million. Poor guy.
What is Frenkie good at? Cant play number 10, cant play Busquets' role, doesnt score goals. He's just a world class ball carrier that's more fit for a tiki taka team. Current Barca cant play that anymore.
using ''beta male persona'' unironically
my god the brainrot is impressive
MonteCuler
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We should wait and see how he performs this season.
But unless he has some fantastic season with us that suddenly makes him worthy of the money and one of the best midfielders in the world, we should really listen to the offers for him in the summer.
If Flick makes him reach his full potential though, then we should probably keep him as he would be one of the best around in that case.
I definitely think that if we sell him we should do it for big money. 30m for him would be shit business, considering how crazy the transfer market is right now. It's not like he is one of those players with no potential that you can't make nothing of, in fact he is the exact opposite. But if he can't reach that potential here then he should do it at other club.
But unless he has some fantastic season with us that suddenly makes him worthy of the money and one of the best midfielders in the world, we should really listen to the offers for him in the summer.
If Flick makes him reach his full potential though, then we should probably keep him as he would be one of the best around in that case.
I definitely think that if we sell him we should do it for big money. 30m for him would be shit business, considering how crazy the transfer market is right now. It's not like he is one of those players with no potential that you can't make nothing of, in fact he is the exact opposite. But if he can't reach that potential here then he should do it at other club.
Maradona37
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Is it really any surprise that Barca fans are fed up of him? He's very talented but he's done nothing at the club for ages. Then you have idiots coming in here gaslighting your fans by claiming that anyone who wants him sold is clueless. It's highly likely the lad - despite his talent - will continue to not be the dominant midfielder everyone wished for and will not fulfil the promise he showed at Ajax. It's just sense at this point based on how things have been going for so long.
Is having him better than the kids who are nowhere near ready as referenced earlier? Yes, of course. But that's hardly a ringing endorsement is it?
Like I say, the guy has a lot of ability, but would anyone bet on him being the player he was at Ajax (or in flashes at Barca) ever again? After all the injuries and form issues? The smart money is on no. And - let's face it - like de Ligt, maybe Ajax was simply his peak. It was a perfectly functioning team that got the absolute most out of all the players in that side. Several of the players in that side haven't looked the same since they moved to other clubs. People think that kids follow a linear trajectory and get better as they get older - but often that doesn't actually happen. There's a plethora of examples of guys being brilliant from 18-21 and then falling apart and never being the same player ever again. Not everyone enters their peak between 25 and 32 like Salah, for example.
Maybe he will just never reach the potential he had? Like I say, nobody doubts his talent, but is it really smart to think he can turn it around and be world-class after so long of being a non-entity. When was the last time that happened to a footballer? When was the last time a player was an outcast and did a 180 to become a top top player again? Is there even a precedent for it?
Is having him better than the kids who are nowhere near ready as referenced earlier? Yes, of course. But that's hardly a ringing endorsement is it?
Like I say, the guy has a lot of ability, but would anyone bet on him being the player he was at Ajax (or in flashes at Barca) ever again? After all the injuries and form issues? The smart money is on no. And - let's face it - like de Ligt, maybe Ajax was simply his peak. It was a perfectly functioning team that got the absolute most out of all the players in that side. Several of the players in that side haven't looked the same since they moved to other clubs. People think that kids follow a linear trajectory and get better as they get older - but often that doesn't actually happen. There's a plethora of examples of guys being brilliant from 18-21 and then falling apart and never being the same player ever again. Not everyone enters their peak between 25 and 32 like Salah, for example.
Maybe he will just never reach the potential he had? Like I say, nobody doubts his talent, but is it really smart to think he can turn it around and be world-class after so long of being a non-entity. When was the last time that happened to a footballer? When was the last time a player was an outcast and did a 180 to become a top top player again? Is there even a precedent for it?
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Birdy
Senior Member
His last chance
If the 'real Frenkie' does not arrive under Flick, he is done at Barca and any other top club
He will leave for free in 2026 and his next club will be of the level of Spurs/Aston Villa, or Juve/Milan/Roma
L3v1s
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Imagine if he enters his last year of contract and refuses to renew. Even if he does he will probably ask for more money knowing that he has the upper hand where he can threaten to leave for free. He'll be 29-32 by that time and we'll probably get pocket change from his departure.
Till then lets see how Flick reinvents him.
Till then lets see how Flick reinvents him.
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