24 - Thomas Vermaelen
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Gemusesuppe
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Roma fans seem to be happy.
Roma fans seem to be happy.
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Flavia
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It seems it's a loan with a mandatory buy, after all. Value is 8-10m. Decent, if true. They probably didn't have more money now, this may be essencially a sale.
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Good luck to him.
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Good luck to him.
What's the difference then between regular sale and this?
Very much doubt Roma has to buy him.
Trickykid
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Here's hoping. What's the source?
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Flavia
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If it's really a loan with a mandatory buy clause, he'll be an as roma player next summer, and they'll pay 8-10m for him then.
[MENTION=8742]Trickykid[/MENTION], most spanish outlets are saying that, but not confirmed yet.
khaled_a_d
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FFP,they don't have money now so they sign him with next year budget.
Wish it is a mandatory sale not a conditional one. i.e related to playing time
Trickykid
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Great news, thanks.
Chainsaw
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Mes que un caritat
BBZ8800
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I know that, but Džeko, Salah and Sharaarawy are more or less "star" players for them.
They (except Džeko, with whom they are not pleased at all) are younger players.
I have been reading some of Roma's forums/groups on Facebook, since one of my old friends is a huge fan of Roma and he comments on their transfer activity (on Facebook) every day, so news about Roma and his comments (and from other guys from that group) pop up on my news feed every day.
Roma's fans were whining that Juve is buying Pjanic, Higuain, Dani Alves and Pjaca, while they are buying 100s of players through those loans.
Majority of players are of a horrible quality, plus fans are questioning who will pay all those wages for all those loaned players, plus, who will pay all these possible loan-plus-a possible transfer deals in the future.
Roma's fans claim that their club is in a horrible financial state and that they don't have money at all.
Plus, that a lot of these loan plus a possible deal transfers could kill them for the upcoming 20 years.
About Vermaelen, I have read there that their fans said that he is too old, a Barca's reject, injury prone players and too expensive to keep him for more than one season.
When you sum all of these, what their fans say, I had an impression that we will surely send him on loan (since Roma doesn't have money), which happened.
About this a possible/obligation option, we will see what will happen in the next season, and what requirements have Roma and Barca signed in this deal.
This is from Wikipedia about transfers of Dzeko, Shaarawy and Salah to Roma:
1. After months of speculation during the 2015 summer transfer market, Džeko officially signed for Italian club Roma on 12 August 2015, on a €4 million loan with an €11 million option to buy that becomes mandatory after certain performance related goals are met. These clauses were activated on 1 October 2015, making Džeko a permanent member of Roma.
2. On 26 January 2016, El Shaarawy joined Roma on a loan deal until 30 June 2016, for a fee of €1.4 million. The agreement includes an option to make the deal permanent, for a fee of €13 million, before the beginning of the 2016–17 season
On 21 June 2016, Roma opted to buy out El Shaarawy's loan from Milan for the €13 million, keeping him at the club until 2020.
3. On 6 August 2015, Salah joined Roma on a season-long loan for €5 million; with the option to make the deal permanent. He made his debut on 22 August, as the new season began with a 1–1 draw at Hellas Verona. In September 11 2015, ACF Fiorentina filed a complaint to FIFA with the claim that Chelsea alleging breach of contract when they allowed Salah to join Roma on loan.
On 3 August 2016, Roma made the deal permanent for an additional €15 million.
So, these Roma's deals are either:
1) Roma decides at the end of the season whether to buy a player (Shaarawy and Salah)
2) players need to play a certain amount of matches (or score a certain amount of goals) and a buy deal is an automatic
What worries me also, is this list on a transfermarkt where Roma has signed 43 loan deals this summer (lol):
http://www.transfermarkt.de/as-rom/transfers/verein/12/saison_id/2016
Who knows how many of them are optional and how many are conditional.
** I have checked that Roma's sight on Facebook now, their administrators say that it is a loan deal (2M per year) plus an OPTION to buy him for 8M in the next summer.
It explicitly says there that an option is NOT obligatory:
http://www.forzaroma.info/calciomercato-as-roma/mercato-arriva-vermaelen-domani-sara-a-roma/
Google translate:
"Rome has found his new center. Thomas Vermaelen will arrive tomorrow at 13.30 in Fiumicino and will begin his new experience in Serie A, ready to join new teammates under the guidance of Spalletti. In the end the agreement with Barcelona has been found and it should be a loan sale (2 million euro) with the right of redemption set at 8. No obligation, therefore, as was instead leaked in the last hours. The blaugrana club has given the green light after finding Marlon in the right substitute for the Belgian."
We will see was it an optional or an obligatory deal in the end.
I still somehow believe (based on Roma's financial problems and 43 other players bought/loaned this summer) that they probably signed only a loan+optional buy deal...
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xXKonan
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To sum Vermaelen up.
When he's not injured and and when he's focused, he's a good option to have on the Bench and could even be a starter for some teams. When he managed to get a string of games during the start of last season he looked convincing enough that "Damn he's a great option to have" but once he got that calf injury vs Atletico and was out for about a month he lost the chance to overtake Mathieu in the pecking order.
He was sparsely used and when he played he was Shaky and a nightmare in our back line, a far cry compared to his form at the start of last season. He's a CB that needs to be constantly playing in order to be effective. But with his injury history it's just impossible it seems.
I hope he Does well at Roma!
When he's not injured and and when he's focused, he's a good option to have on the Bench and could even be a starter for some teams. When he managed to get a string of games during the start of last season he looked convincing enough that "Damn he's a great option to have" but once he got that calf injury vs Atletico and was out for about a month he lost the chance to overtake Mathieu in the pecking order.
He was sparsely used and when he played he was Shaky and a nightmare in our back line, a far cry compared to his form at the start of last season. He's a CB that needs to be constantly playing in order to be effective. But with his injury history it's just impossible it seems.
I hope he Does well at Roma!
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