4 - Ronald Araújo

[Birdy]

With all due respect, don't start.

Kunde is getting a +- fair wage. Again, let's put an anomalous Liverpool out of brackets.
How much does Militao get? How much does Saliba get? How much does Rüdiger get? They get more than Kunde.

Why should Kunde get less than them? What the hell? Kunde isn't playing in his home position, yet his performances are at a pretty high level. Yes, he's not a 100% elite right-back, but he's good.

I'd like to see him in the CB position, I'm sure he'd be the best in that position but is forced to play on the right.

Inigo came in as a free agent. I do not welcome the practice when free agents are given a bonus, but there is such a practice in football.

WE are talking about a PRIME EXAMPLE of how Fatporta still hands Bartomeuesque wages, and is still incapable of reducing the wage bill and instilling a proper structure,

and you come here to whitewash him....

Please, come up with more ridiculous examples. You can do it.

 

[JamDav1982]

Kounde is a bit like the Dembele of RBs. Can have some class moments and look solid one minute to to horrendous errors the next and still dont think he is great at stopping balls into the box. Too often allows the ball in and throws a borderline lazy leg or half turns back.

With the ball he can go from world class pass/final ball to the stupidest of giveaways near enough every game.

 

[M3ls]

Seriously? Get a grip mate...
Militao and Saliba did get MUCH less in their 1st contracts at Real and Arsenal, despite being both >>> Kounde in all facets of the game

Militao was getting 7.2 m Gross for his first 4 seasons at Madrid before renewing.
Saliba was getting 2.4 m Gross in his first 3 seasons at Arsenal before renewing.
(Guess what? Saliba is STILL costing his team LESS than Kounde in Gross/season. 11.4m gross in EUR)

As for Rudiger, you can't compare someone coming at 29 to Madrid, looking for his last good contract, with someone who gets his 1st contract for a top club at the age of fukn' 23. And even so, the difference is only 1m gross more for Rudiger.

How much you think a player who gets this kind of undeserved fat contract at 23 will ask for a renewal? Do you tihnk he will wanna reduce some salary ?

PS: Yes, Kounde shall be much better at CB than RB, still worse than both Saliba and Militao.
If he is not good enough as CB to be played there ahead of all of Araujo, Cubarsi, Christensen, Inigo, then sorry he should not complain for playing RB. Nor he should get more money for that. Like, what the heck are you even talking about?

Saliba returned from loan, played one year and then got a bigger contract than Kounde's(if you count net salary).

Kounde and Saliba have the same contract period, both ending in 2027.

Militao has a contract until 2028 - that is 1 year longer than Kunde's - he gets €1m more.

Militao came to Real Madrid in a different status than Kounde. That's a fact.

Saying that Koundeis worse than Saliba or Militao as a central defender is complete nonsense. Especially in the context of comparing him to Militao, who has been one of Real Madrid's most criticized players for the last two years.

 

[M3ls]

Kounde is a bit like the Dembele of RBs. Can have some class moments and look solid one minute to to horrendous errors the next and still dont think he is great at stopping balls into the box. Too often allows the ball in and throws a borderline lazy leg or half turns back.

With the ball he can go from world class pass/final ball to the stupidest of giveaways near enough every game.

Laporta's mistakes are the contracts of Lewandowski, Gundogan and Fati.

Other than that, everything else is fine. Our current wage bill (if you don't count amigos payments) is 200 million euros.

Once Lewandowski, Fati and De Jong leave our wage bill will be at 170 million euros even with the contract extensions of Yamal, Araujo, Gavi, Pedri.

 

[M3ls]

Kounde is a bit like the Dembele of RBs. Can have some class moments and look solid one minute to to horrendous errors the next and still dont think he is great at stopping balls into the box. Too often allows the ball in and throws a borderline lazy leg or half turns back.

With the ball he can go from world class pass/final ball to the stupidest of giveaways near enough every game.

It's not his fault he has to play on the wing. Put Saliba, who is now being hailed as the best defender in the world, on the RB and we'll see.

 

[M3ls]

I don't like to rely solely on whoscored type resources, but it's notable that Kunde playing at right back, i.e. not his native position has a higher grade than Saliba who plays his native position.

 

[JamDav1982]

There is not a team going that would take Kounde ahead of Saliba.

 

[M3ls]

There is not a team going that would take Kounde ahead of Saliba.

When he played in the center of defense almost every top club wanted him.

 

[JamDav1982]

When he played in the center of defense almost every top club wanted him.

Not really.. Barca and Chelsea both of who were weak in that position at the time and both who half an eye on him at RB or right of a back three.

He has never been in discussion as top CB in the world.

Offer clubs Saliba or Kounde at CB and there is one winner.

 

[M3ls]

A little bit of nostalgia

 

[M3ls]

Not really.. Barca and Chelsea both of who were weak in that position at the time and both who half an eye on him at RB or right of a back three.

He has never been in discussion as top CB in the world.

Offer clubs Saliba or Kounde at CB and there is one winner.

No, they wanted him at center back. There is a video fact - where Xavi says to the sports department - buy me Kounde, and with a couple of fast defenders Kounde and Araujo we can play with a high line.

 

[Birdy]

Saliba returned from loan, played one year and then got a bigger contract than Kounde's(if you count net salary).

Kounde and Saliba have the same contract period, both ending in 2027.

Militao has a contract until 2028 - that is 1 year longer than Kunde's - he gets €1m more.

Militao came to Real Madrid in a different status than Kounde. That's a fact.

Saying that Koundeis worse than Saliba or Militao as a central defender is complete nonsense. Especially in the context of comparing him to Militao, who has been one of Real Madrid's most criticized players for the last two years.

6 lines of not replying to the point.

AGAIN: both Militao and Saliba were handed FIRST CONTRACTS at the first top clubs they went (Madrid and Arsenal) WAY lower than Kounde. 7.5m gross and 2.4m gross

You picked the examples.
Try another one if you want.

Let's pull up all the names of CBs that get their FIRST CONTRACT at a top club at the age of 21-25 and let's see how much they get.
I bet you won't find even 1 that gets close to Kounde's money.

 

[Birdy]

Laporta's mistakes are the contracts of Lewandowski, Gundogan and Fati.

Other than that, everything else is fine. Our current wage bill (if you don't count amigos payments) is 200 million euros.

Once Lewandowski, Fati and De Jong leave our wage bill will be at 170 million euros even with the contract extensions of Yamal, Araujo, Gavi, Pedri.

And Ferran, and Inigo, and Raphina, and Eric, and Christensen.

ALL PAID WAY ABOVE THE MARKET

Let's see who he gave a right contract.
Only Pedri possibly

 

[JamDav1982]

He was good for Sevilla.. no doubt.

Similar compilation could be found of just about any CB that was highly rated at some point.

 

[JamDav1982]

No, they wanted him at center back. There is a video fact - where Xavi says to the sports department - buy me Kounde, and with a couple of fast defenders Kounde and Araujo we can play with a high line.

They didnt sign Christensen to be a sub.. they always had Kounde at RB in mind also.

Kounde/Araujo is too poor on ball as a pair particularly when one has to play LCB.