5 - Iñigo Martínez

[khaled_a_d]

Lemos isn't better than Inigo tbh, and he is more of a DM than CB. guy movement and awareness are awful for a CB

The question everyone linked to Barca need to ask themselves is this.

How many players have we signed from la liga clubs who we believed were better than the level they are showing and came here and be total waste.

Adra
Paco
Gomes

Don't let the same mistake happen for the 4th time

Alba,Rakitic & Bravo was from Liga, Song, Cesc Vermaelen was from abroad.

 

[DHorozov]

with 32M you could get Davinson Sanchez/Lemos + Mina whom are both better and younger than Inigo.
I thought Ernie would have been smarter than Lucho but starting to doubt him already.

Isn't the signing of Martinez exactly the opposite of what you are suggesting?

We have talented CB like Marlon and most probably talented CB Mina next summer in their early twenties, so why should we bring another one on board? For me the logic of Martinez transfer is that Valverde wants an established and experienced La Liga defender, who can enter the team without the needed time to adapt (which would probably be needed for Sanchez, even though he is really talented) and step in when needed (Pique and Umtiti cannot play whole season).

Regarding Lemos, I am not that hyped about him and his overall defensive display from what I have seen last year (also same arguments stands for him just like Marlon and Mina) ...

 

[Jombi]

Isn't the signing of Martinez exactly the opposite of what you are suggesting?

We have talented CB like Marlon and most probably talented CB Mina next summer in their early twenties, so why should we bring another one on board? For me the logic of Martinez transfer is that Valverde wants an established and experienced La Liga defender, who can enter the team without the needed time to adapt (which would probably be needed for Sanchez, even though he is really talented) and step in when needed (Pique and Umtiti cannot play whole season).

Regarding Lemos, I am not that hyped about him and his overall defensive display from what I have seen last year (also same arguments stands for him just like Marlon and Mina) ...

The same was said to defend the La Liga signings we made in Vidal, Paco, Gomes and Arda as well. No need to adapt, as they had so much experience from La Liga. Well, we saw how that turned out. 130m euros spent. Meanwhile, Umtiti joined from France and didnt skip a beat.

We have Masche who is better than Inigo and Yerry is supposed to join in January? Inigo is absolutely not what we need at all.

 

[jamrock]

Lemos isn't better than Inigo tbh, and he is more of a DM than CB. guy movement and awareness are awful for a CB



Alba,Rakitic & Bravo was from Liga, Song, Cesc Vermaelen was from abroad.

And all those players showed way more before coming here than the ones I mentioned & inigo, all of whom were at there correct level before we bought them

 

[DHorozov]

The same was said to defend the La Liga signings we made in Vidal, Paco, Gomes and Arda as well. No need to adapt, as they had so much experience from La Liga. Well, we saw how that turned out. 130m euros spent. Meanwhile, Umtiti joined from France and didnt skip a beat.

We have Masche who is better than Inigo and Yerry is supposed to join in January? Inigo is absolutely not what we need at all.

If it wasn't for the injuries I think Vidal would have been (and it will be now, hopefully he stays fit) a good addition.
Paco was one of the few forwards who was willing to come and sit on the bench most of the times and also still think is a good addition and will show it this season as he will have more playing time.
Regarding Arda, I never thought he was a Barca type of player and did not understand this transfer at all.

Also cannot agree that Masche is currently better than Inigo. He gave us a lot, but his time of being a starter is gone for me. From what I know Yerri is coming next summer (might be wrong here).

I guess time will tell, but I think that if we indeed have the money for a new CB and this will not influence the signing of two 100+ new signings (Dembele and Coutinho for example), we need a new CB if we are going to battle on all fronts this season (a CB that is not in his early twenties and will surely be a risk of whether he will fit directly in the squad).

And above all I think that Valverde should be given the credit to build his squad this season (at least I trust him and will do that)

 

[Jombi]

If it wasn't for the injuries I think Vidal would have been (and it will be now, hopefully he stays fit) a good addition.
Paco was one of the few forwards who was willing to come and sit on the bench most of the times and also still think is a good addition and will show it this season as he will have more playing time.
Regarding Arda, I never thought he was a Barca type of player and did not understand this transfer at all.

Also cannot agree that Masche is currently better than Inigo. He gave us a lot, but his time of being a starter is gone for me. From what I know Yerri is coming next summer (might be wrong here).

I guess time will tell, but I think that if we indeed have the money for a new CB and this will not influence the signing of two 100+ new signings (Dembele and Coutinho for example), we need a new CB if we are going to battle on all fronts this season (a CB that is not in his early twenties and will surely be a risk of whether he will fit directly in the squad).

And above all I think that Valverde should be given the credit to build his squad this season (at least I trust him and will do that)

History has shown that there is a huge risk in signing average La Liga players for top euros. We've already spent 130m on those four I mentioned. None of them have adapted yet.

It doesnt make sense for Palmeiras to release Yerry in July next year. The idea was that he should join in January when the season is over in Brazil. And splashing big on an average CB like Inigo will surely affect the transfer budget for other reinforcements. There is no way around that.

 

[khaled_a_d]

And all those players showed way more before coming here than the ones I mentioned & inigo, all of whom were at there correct level before we bought them

Eh, I know a lot of people don't like them, but Paco & Gomes has just shown as much considering their age (the other was older so had more time in Liga), and Arda was a starter in one of top 5 teams in the world.
There is a risk in every transfer, you can't stereotype it into Liga or Ligue 1 etc.
I have followed Inigo few years back and never like him, didn't follow him that much lately although many of those who paid close attention to him say he was a beast under Eusebio. So I don't want to get dragged in judging a transfer I don't like but I don't know much about.
All what I am saying, if you don't like him as a player that is fine as enough of an argument, but let's not put make it an argument about deals from Liga

 

[Paul]

Obviously, we've been chasing 2 basque defenders(+Laporte) for a while now, it was about time to sign Inigo because Mascherano's days on Camp Nou are coming to an end, 26 is an excellent age to sign a CB, I hope he proves worth the release clause, which is OK considering Chelsea payed €40m for Rudiger and there isn't really a great CB on the market to fight for right now, I mean, I still don't see why Bonucci left Juventus for Milan, but eh, I think he might regret soon and it's his problem.

 

[KingMessi]

with 32M you could get Davinson Sanchez/Lemos + Mina whom are both better and younger than Inigo.
I thought Ernie would have been smarter than Lucho but starting to doubt him already.

You wouldn't get them for that low a sum. It isn't 2014 anymore.

 

[clemente]

There is a huge difference between signing a highly talented 19 year old from Mallorca and an average 26 year old from Sociedad. There is a very good reason why he still plays there. And no, he wont improve. He's reached his level and its not good enough for us.

How did you decide that he is average? Do you know him? Have you seen him play? Would you even know its him if you woke up next to him? There is a reason we cant score against sociedad for years now, and saying he wont improve is literally like saying Roberto wont improve.

 

[xXKonan]

I think Journalists are thinking that the fee (32 Million) and assuming we are buying him because Valverde isn't impressed with Umtiti,Masche,Marlon, Verm and he will automatically make him a starter due to that.

I think this isn't such a clear cut situation as Journalists are saying. Valverde wants a strong and ready option when needed as he probably thinks Marlon isn't quite ready yet and with Masche aging and Verm is to injury prone to rely on. and to him Martinez fits that role as he's not young or old like Mathieu/Verm were when we got them.

I'm not saying I justify the money we are going to spend on him but it's too simple to assume that we are buying Martinez because Umtiti and the others failed to impress in Preseason.

 

[jamrock]

Eh, I know a lot of people don't like them, but Paco & Gomes has just shown as much considering their age (the other was older so had more time in Liga), and Arda was a starter in one of top 5 teams in the world.
There is a risk in every transfer, you can't stereotype it into Liga or Ligue 1 etc.
I have followed Inigo few years back and never like him, didn't follow him that much lately although many of those who paid close attention to him say he was a beast under Eusebio. So I don't want to get dragged in judging a transfer I don't like but I don't know much about.
All what I am saying, if you don't like him as a player that is fine as enough of an argument, but let's not put make it an argument about deals from Liga

Adra was never a good fit, everyone could see that, he said he didn't want to stay a atletico because they ran too much, yet he wants to play in A Barca midfield.

Paco & Gomes was not, is not and will never be good enough, to make a constant difference for Barcelona, a few nice games here & there but that's it.

I'm not saying we should never sign players from la liga, but we shouldn't be signing a player for 32m because the coach who due to his job, only ever really as time to see players in la liga wants to sign 1. Much better players that inigo are out there for the same money or less

 

[Nothanks]

30m is the new 10m from 5 years ago

people are saying that we offered liverpool 90m for coutinho and it got rejected and fans instantly (on this forum) say well f it, offer 120m like 30m is not that much but now 30m for a 26 year old player is too much? lol
you guys are also willing to make dembele a 20 year old with one or two season under his belt of high potential a top 3 record signing only behind neymar and pogba (people who not only have high potential but also are proven) but not willing to spend 25m+ on a defender?

I can easily see us making a profit with inigo in 3 years time, should we sell him. but 26 is still young for a defender they peak in their late 20s

 

[Zuti]

So the big signing they anounced to be presented Monday before the game is gonna be freaking Inigo, lol

 

[Jombi]

How did you decide that he is average? Do you know him? Have you seen him play? Would you even know its him if you woke up next to him? There is a reason we cant score against sociedad for years now, and saying he wont improve is literally like saying Roberto wont improve.

Of course I know him. He's been playing in La Liga for ages now. And no, he wont improve. Roberto needs playing time. Inigo needs to stay at his level in Sociedad.