5 - Iñigo Martínez

[JamDav1982]

Well Real board certainly thought so otherwise they wouldnt have put 1B on their players.

That doesnt mean that real did that due to FFP. Does that mean Real think PSG could pay 950m for Ronaldo so made it 1bn just to be sure? No one knows if they are accurate anyway.

Anyway the point is about why did they not realise he wa definitely going weeks ago in which other things bar the fee come into play and even the players didnt know.

 

[Truthist]

Seems like the board insisted on the clause if you read the article. It looks like they clearly saw it as a double edged sword.

 

[blaugrana1987]

I dont blame board for 222m clause, I blame them for not anticipating this. I think alot of Barca fans saw where this is heading, and they surely should have known betted.

 

[JamDav1982]

Seems like the board insisted on the clause if you read the article. It looks like they clearly saw it as a double edged sword.

Board insisted on 220m clause?

 

[JamDav1982]

I dont blame board for 222m clause, I blame them for not anticipating this. I think alot of Barca fans saw where this is heading, and they surely should have known betted.

What would you like to have been done?

 

[Paul]

Neymar is a scumbag. Move on. He is the only one who should be blamed. Everybody on Barca liked him and supported him. He left because he is a greedy fuck and because he and his dad are paid a fortune.

Don't give a fuck, this is capitalism, not Looney Toons or Christmas Lunch with the family. This isn't religion class where a priest tries to explain 2000 year old morals to clueless kids.

Ronaldo is an asshole, he didn't leave because rma kept him, knew how to, ended up winning 3 UCL, pretty sure a average board would've lost him the moment gulf money started pumping in, they didn't, we did.

We could go on with this for eternity, it's our fault, cause the club should've kept him, in a way, going for his character is like chasing a stray dogs because he killed your cat, that's nature of the dog just like the nature of people says you got where you think its better, Barto should've made the better for him in Barcelona, and we can't cry we didn't have the financial muscle to do it.

 

[DonAK]

What the hell are we talking about Neymar here? He WANTED to leave so he can collect mountains of oil cash from the Qataris. Neymar leaving has nothing to do with the board. How can you pin that on them? Hell, the board probably did too much (paid Neymar and his dad to keep them happy and somewhat calm) to keep him.

Simple question. Do you think Neymar leaving is the board's fault?

Yes or no please. And we'll continue this from there.

Not their fault for him leaving, but not anticipating what was looking very likely was an amateur move.

It's their fault for not signing a midfielder yet and it'll be their fault for not replacing him, which you are ready to excuse.

Not signing a replacement for Neymar and not signing a World Class midfielder will make Barca worse team which you are denying, regardless of the tactics, the team would not have improved. It would have regressed.

That's the problem.

You're willing to excuse everything they do and hinge on the fact that Barca can win the CL and La Liga which is true, but the chances of the team winning is decreasing when the team is worse.

 

[serghei]

Board should be blame for not anticipating this Like what? Tap Neymar Sr's phone, The Wire style, and listen to him talking with Nasser about how much money they would get if they move? This was done by Neymar and his dad, setting up the move privately.

It's their fault for not signing a midfielder yet and it'll be their fault for not replacing him, which you are ready to excuse.

Not signing a replacement for Neymar and not signing a World Class midfielder will make Barca worse team which you are denying, regardless of the tactics, the team would not have improved. It would have regressed.

That's the problem.

You're willing to excuse everything they do and hinge on the fact that Barca can win the CL and La Liga which is true, but the chances of the team winning is decreasing when the team is worse.

Not true. Blamed the board for not signing Bernardo. Blamed the board for giving too much money for our aging players, and paying a fortune for our superstars. Unaccepable to have such high wages, compared to a more successfull Madrid side in the last 2 years.

But just because I blame the board for a lot of the things they did poorly, doesn't mean I'm going to join this Apocalypse brigade that sees us 'struggling to make CL places'. This sounds so lame to me. Season hasn't even started.

 

[blaugrana1987]

What would you like to have been done?

I would like them not to try with Verratti again knowint these fucking sheiks would rather lose 100m and have him sitting in stands then sell it to us. I would have liked if they had plan b ready in July and not scramble for a deal with Liverpool and BVB 5 days before season starts.

All in all, there was enough mushing even to general public that PSG had deal with Neymar, Im pretty sure board was informed over it.

I would also like if we didnt buy oldest players in europe (along with Juventus) while our main competitor is buying all young prospects.

Generally would have liked better vision and less short term thinking.

What I would like the most is for then to gtfo if they cannot close a deal and leav that money to someone who knows how to use it.

 

[JamDav1982]

Not their fault for him leaving, but not anticipating what was looking very likely was an amateur move.

It's their fault for not signing a midfielder yet and it'll be their fault for not replacing him, which you are ready to excuse.

Not signing a replacement for Neymar and not signing a World Class midfielder will make Barca worse team which you are denying, regardless of the tactics, the team would not have improved. It would have regressed.

That's the problem.

You're willing to excuse everything they do and hinge on the fact that Barca can win the CL and La Liga which is true, but the chances of the team winning is decreasing when the team is worse.

When should they have realised and what should they have done?

Easy to say 'Neymar replacement should be signed by now' but when did you expect that by or who expect signed?

 

[blaugrana1987]

Board should be blame for not anticipating this Like what? Tap Neymar Sr's phone, The Wire style, and listen to him talking with Nasser about how much money they would get if they move? This was done by Neymar and his dad, setting up the move privately.

UOL released info last year after new deal was signed about PSG and Neymars deal for next season. Even that crazy Hernandez guy on twitter pinned his posts from 2016 saying deal between them is struck and Neymar will move to PSG.

I think its naive to think club like Barca didnt hear mushings.

 

[JamDav1982]

I would like them not to try with Verratti again knowint these fucking sheiks would rather lose 100m and have him sitting in stands then sell it to us. I would have liked if they had plan b ready in July and not scramble for a deal with Liverpool and BVB 5 days before season starts.

All in all, there was enough mushing even to general public that PSG had deal with Neymar, Im pretty sure board was informed over it.

I would also like if we didnt buy oldest players in europe (along with Juventus) while our main competitor is buying all young prospects.

Generally would have liked better vision and less short term thinking.

What I would like the most is for then to gtfo if they cannot close a deal and leav that money to someone who knows how to use it.

Plan B for Neymar in July when no one at the club could be certain either way if he was leaving?

Rest is just a ramble but basically target Dembele in July.

 

[DonAK]

When should they have realised and what should they have done?

Easy to say 'Neymar replacement should be signed by now' but when did you expect that by or who expect signed?

Not now, but by the end of the window. If they fail to do that, they've failed at their job. If their excuse is that they made their move too late because they didn't see Neymar leaving then they're at fault, since every competent club should have certain players in their mind in case someone is considering leaving.

 

[JamDav1982]

UOL released info last year after new deal was signed about PSG and Neymars deal for next season. Even that crazy Hernandez guy on twitter pinned his posts from 2016 saying deal between them is struck and Neymar will move to PSG.

Hernandez on twitter posts a heap of shit contstantly.

Picking out one that came true from someone he retweeted has no real relevance.

Neymar was always keeping his options open clearly.

 

[Sumlit]

Bartomeu himself admitted today they knew Neymar leaving was a possibility and that's why they put his buyout at 222m. Because, per his words, if he stayed they kept a great player, but if he left they'd get a lot of money.

He liked the double edge sword this situation gave him. So yes, Bartomeu/The Board did have a hand in Neymar being in a position to leave.

And knowing this as factual, they should have planned for the eventuality better.

Also, this team needed renewal even if Neymar stayed, and they have done very little to make it happen.