5 - Iñigo Martínez

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
If you try EVERYTHING and fail at EVERYTHING except for Semedo, are you really doing a good job? Every single attempt we have made (confirmed, rumored, whatever) this summer except that one has been a disastrous failure. Either their failure to execute, or their failure to make the right decisions and choices on players to buy or what path to go.
 

serghei

Senior Member
I was pointing to the point regardless the context of the discussion. We have great players and great core to build on. That is why we are great club

And tbh, if we didn't close any good deals it will be bad for the board Serghei. I like what they have done in youth movement in B team and youth movement with Vitinho,Cuenca,Bueno & Carevic. But for first team? We have great squad but it wasn't improved.
You can argue it is better to keep money than over spend, but this can't be said when you lose your second best player and end up with no replacement. We have gone this way with Tito and it did us short term success but even with Neymar signing we were bad in a year after.

I understand. The post was with the context included though. I agree things aren't rosey, but hold on a second. We just sound like we're supporting Getafe here. This team is still beaming with talent and world class players. We have 4 field players who are the best in the world in their position. Pique, Busquets, Messi and Suarez. These teams will start in every fucking team out there, including Real Madrid.

What are we talking about here?
 

Paul

New member
Release clause of 222m when Ronaldo or Bale are sitting on 1b clauses. --> they can only leave if Uncle Flo accepts it.

Board did anything but too much to keep him, maybe they thought nobody in hell will pay 200m+ but let's face it, you are in the world of football you're supposed to see things coming, PSG were already rumored to go for sums such as 180m+ for Ronaldo, I'm pretty sure if his release clause was anywhere under 250m they would've went for it and convince him to leave for 30-40m salary per year, but it never happened because the rma board saw it coming, especially in those moments when the guy was booed and unappreciated on Bernabeu.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
If you try EVERYTHING and fail at EVERYTHING except for Semedo, are you really doing a good job? Every single attempt we have made (confirmed, rumored, whatever) this summer except that one has been a disastrous failure. Either their failure to execute, or their failure to make the right decisions and choices on players to buy or what path to go.

Remains to be seen how much a failure it was to choose Valverde over the more popular Sampaoli or how the team looks when season starts.
 

xavi_the_Boss

New member
If we can´t sign a Midfielder and LW it means that Valverde will end up with a much worse Team then the one in he had in pre season.This happens regulary to small Clubs but it definitly shouldn´t happen at a Club like Barca.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Release clause of 222m when Ronaldo or Bale are sitting on 1b clauses.

Board did anything but too much to keep him, maybe they thought nobody in hell will pay 200m+ but let's face it, you are in the world of football you're supposed to see things coming, PSG were already rumored to go for sums such as 180m+ for Ronaldo, I'm pretty sure if his release clause was anywhere under 250m they would've went for it and convince him to leave for 30-40m salary per year, but it never happened because the rma board saw it coming.

What if Neymar says that clause has to be 222 or he wont sign a new contract.

Neymar always wanted a low fee that could be paid.
 

Paul

New member
What if Neymar says that clause has to be 222 or he wont sign a new contract.

Neymar always wanted a low fee that could be paid.

That's part of the negotiation the board has with Neymar's side and strictly their ability to impose their policy on the employee, while it's in anybodies interest to have his release clause as low as possible, when the club set it to 222m, neither them or he thought it was plausible that someone would pay, same goes with Messi at 300m while rma set it 1b for god damn Benz or 500m for Hamesz, it just looks that the policy of the club is not the same as rma, to set completely astronomical clauses that nobody can touch, else you can't explain why Kroos has the same sum as Messi or Casemiro with Neymar.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Release clause of 222m when Ronaldo or Bale are sitting on 1b clauses. --> they can only leave if Uncle Flo accepts it.

1-No one knows if this is true. it is just media reports.
2-Release clause is there for as part of labor roles to protect players, it can't be held with no cap. salary,length of contract & how much was paid for him are all factors decide the cap for buyout. Cr7 had more salary and was bought with almost twice as Neymar (what was paid to his club was just 17M, the whole 80M thing is about his father and bonuses)
3-All clubs in Spain has reported low buyouts in their player, I've never read any club that has a buyout more than 100M outside of big 3 and the record for buyout in A.Madrid is 150M or 200. That further proves there is a cap, and for whatever reason only RM reported to have 1B for buyout? I don't buy that for a second.
4-I don't think we have put the biggest possible buyout, but let's be fair here, the world record transfer hasn't been doubled in 16 years (moved from 60 in 2000 to 105 in 2016), in and his release clause was 210% of the world record transfer.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
And Barto and Co didnt find anything suspicious? I wonder whrn they finally saw he was about to gtfo for real? August?

I dont think they believed PSG could just fuck over FFP.

Everyone likes to think Pique is the 'real president' with his finger on the pulse and he will be closer to Neymar and still got it wrong.
 

blaugrana1987

New member
I dont think they believed PSG could just fuck over FFP.

Everyone likes to think Pique is the 'real president' with his finger on the pulse and he will be closer to Neymar and still got it wrong.
Well Real board certainly thought so otherwise they wouldnt have put 1B on their players.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Neymar is a scumbag. Move on. He is the only one who should be blamed. Everybody on Barca liked him and supported him. He left because he is a greedy fuck and because he and his dad are paid a fortune at PSG. End of.

You guys should stop blaming absolutely everything on the board. Yes they are pretty bad, but some of the bad things just happen. You roll with the punches and get back on the feet and you fight for the colors and to win everything. The team is good enough. If we get some inforcements, even better.
 
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