7 - Ferran Torres

JamDav1982

Senior Member
long term? neither.

a cripple and the 6th option at man city won't be the main man if we get our shit together and build a competitive squad again.

He wasnt '6th option' at City.

Was one of a number of very good attacking players who Pep would rotated a lot and would give chances based on form.

Good player for City particularly when consider arrived at 20 form La Liga and it is about toughest team in world to try and get game time in and depth in his position.

Spains best player in 2022 also.
 

gregorrin10

Senior Member
In that case, they should have renewed him first, and then signed Torres.

Doesn't matter. If Coutinho leaves, which he reportedly did agree to now, to return back to the PL: Everton, Aston Villa and even Liverpool are all interested (the timing for the latter couldn't be better, since they need bodies to fill in for Salah and Mane), it will be enough anyway, since Coutinho has an even bigger salary, our biggest earner by quite a distance actually.
 

gregorrin10

Senior Member
He wasnt '6th option' at City.

Was one of a number of very good attacking players who Pep would rotated a lot and would give chances based on form.

Good player for City particularly when consider arrived at 20 form La Liga and it is about toughest team in world to try and get game time in and depth in his position.

Spains best player in 2022 also.

Exactly. I'd even go further and call him a starter when he was fully fit, it was clear that Pep was developing him in the striker/false nine role quite nicely, and actually started to prefer him to the likes of Gabi Jesus (who actually played RW: weird but okay) and Foden. Grealish and Sterling get played mostly on the left, while Mahrez on the right. Without Ferran there now he even had to resort to playing KDB as a false nine a couple of weeks ago, when neither Jesus nor Foden didn't start. Calling Ferran a 6th option when at City is laughable.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
6th option as in Pep ditched him swiftly when the guy started to cry over playing time and took the opportunity to get a nice profit from Barca.

Why didn't Pep put the likes of Sterling or Jesus on the market if he tought Ferran was this otherworldly talent that would be a great false 9/striker?

I mean he could have told Ferran that he sees him as the future and wants him around. Instead they sold him after 1,5 seasons, a big injury and some good performances vs bums.
 

Mateka

New member
Ferran was a good option. But one competing with Foden, Mahrez, Jesus, Sterling, Grealish on the wing which made him 6 th option.

At 9 he was much higher up the list. Arguably either Foden or Torres.

KDB is a good false 9. Some discussion that Silva is not as good when KDB is in the team. So KDB false 9, then play Silva and Gundogan as two 10s.

I prefer Torres as a 9. That for me is his best position and at City would have got him the most games.

I wish him well.
 
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gregorrin10

Senior Member
6th option as in Pep ditched him swiftly when the guy started to cry over playing time and took the opportunity to get a nice profit from Barca.

Why didn't Pep put the likes of Sterling or Jesus on the market if he tought Ferran was this otherworldly talent that would be a great false 9/striker?

I mean he could have told Ferran that he sees him as the future and wants him around. Instead they sold him after 1,5 seasons, a big injury and some good performances vs bums.

Simple. Sterling is English, the blow back from the fans would be greater if he sold an English player, since they don't have that many anyway and fans like to see at least a few home country boys in there. Plus he played in the EPL his whole career, so him even wanting to leave was unlikely to begin with. While Jesus is the one true striker he has left after Aguero left, so he didn't want to get rid of another one and keep just players with a similar profile, wingers/attacking midfielders, no matter how good they are and how much they're scoring even without a real striker in there. Sometimes you need a true striker, someone who's instincts are there from the start, not just players you just started to move to a new position. The timing for Ferran also wasn't great, since he didn't play in the last 2 months before Barca came in with the offer.

Not to mention after the comments Ferran made, that he always considered/wanted to return to La Liga sooner than later, when either Barca/Madrid came calling, he'd want to go, so the moment Barca came, he probably went to Pep and told him he wants to leave, and as Pep said, he (and City) aren't the kind of people who stand in the way of players, when they don't want to be there anymore.
 
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malvolio

Senior Member
Simple. Sterling is English, the blow back from the fans would be greater if he sold an English player, since they don't have that many anyway and fans like to see at least a few home country boys in there. Plus he played in the EPL his whole career, so him even wanting to leave was unlikely to begin with. While Jesus is the one true striker he has left after Aguero left, so he didn't want to get rid of another one and keep just players with a similar profile, wingers/attacking midfielders, no matter how good they are and how much they're scoring even without a real striker in there. Not to mention after the comments Ferran made, that he always considered/wanted to return to La Liga sooner than later, when either Barca/Madrid came calling, so the moment Barca came, he probably went to Pep and told him he wants to leave, and as Pep said, he (and City) aren't the kind of people who stand in the way of players, when they want to go.

Same fans would not bat an eyelid if Sterling is sold and Haaland is brought in. Maybe home grown quota is of importance though.

I'm perfectly fine with Pep's explanation, an unhappy player is no good. But this is a situation that developed through the decisions taken by Pep. If Ferran would have been a starter don't think he would have thought of leaving this early.

I'm not shitting on the guy. He'll probably be good addition, even more considering our current roster. But let's not pretend he is this huge talent that Pep just threw away.
 

Andresito

Senior Member
Staff member
If Ferran would've been a clear starter we wouldn't have been able to afford him anyway.

City are fine with letting players go. Did it with Sane and were OK with doing with freaking Bernardo a year ago.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
6th option as in Pep ditched him swiftly when the guy started to cry over playing time and took the opportunity to get a nice profit from Barca.

Why didn't Pep put the likes of Sterling or Jesus on the market if he tought Ferran was this otherworldly talent that would be a great false 9/striker?

I mean he could have told Ferran that he sees him as the future and wants him around. Instead they sold him after 1,5 seasons, a big injury and some good performances vs bums.

No that doesnt make him 6th option which means nothing really but just repeated to sound negative.

Pep was willing to let Bernardo, Sterling go if price met. Let Sane go. Let Laporte go. All very good players.

You making things up as if folk are saying Torres is 'otherworldly talent'?

Torres has been good for City, very good for Spain and Pep/City rated him.

Will be good signing for Barca.
 

Messigician

Senior Member
No that doesnt make him 6th option which means nothing really but just repeated to sound negative.

Pep was willing to let Bernardo, Sterling go if price met. Let Sane go. Let Laporte go. All very good players.

You making things up as if folk are saying Torres is 'otherworldly talent'?

Torres has been good for City, very good for Spain and Pep/City rated him.

Will be good signing for Barca.

Laporte wasn't let go

Rare L for JamDav
 

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