7 - Philippe Coutinho - V1

BarçaBarça

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I think it lessens Liverpools motivation for a deal, that one of our alternatives are Özil, who are playing for a direct rival.
Therefore they will only let Coutinho go for the insane amount of money, because if we go for Özil instead it will be a win-win for them.
 

Raketa10

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I think it lessens Liverpools motivation for a deal, that one of our alternatives are Özil, who are playing for a direct rival.
Therefore they will only let Coutinho go for the insane amount of money, because if we go for Özil instead it will be a win-win for them.

Don't think Ozil is the real alternative to Coutinho. If they don't sell him now we might opt for Griezmann in summer and Liverpool will never get this amount of money for him again.
 
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Barcilliant

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These prices are stupid. He is not available for CL and Liverpool want 180 million? Lol.

Fuck it. Just develop our youngsters for fuck sake. There is alot of talent in Spanish football which can be bought at reasonable prices. Look at that idiot Ceballos. If he had half a brain he would have joined us.

People talk about the market but the market to s insane. I would give D Suarez or Rafinha plus 100 million. End of story.
 

Tepid water

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These prices are stupid. He is not available for CL and Liverpool want 180 million? Lol.

Fuck it. Just develop our youngsters for fuck sake. There is alot of talent in Spanish football which can be bought at reasonable prices. Look at that idiot Ceballos. If he had half a brain he would have joined us.

People talk about the market but the market to s insane. I would give D Suarez or Rafinha plus 100 million. End of story.
I think the point is that he isn’t available for sale.. why would his club worry about CL?... that’s the point, that’s why the fee would be so huge (although I suspect not that huge).

Clubs that don’t want to sell, don’t need to sell and have a player who started a five year contract a few months ago are bound to ask big money.

Still, I wouldn’t worry, the fee has been made up just to sell papers and attract clicks to their web site
 

Raketa10

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If they don't sell we might opt for Griezmann and Arthur. They would cost 150 mil together and than it's game over for Coutinho. As I said I am 90% sure we won't get both Coutinho and Griezmann so it's either Coutinho now or Griezmann in summer.

Honestly I would be thrilled if we sign Coutinho but to be fair 180 mil is definitely too much. 150 mil including variables should be the upper limit. We should also consider including Gomes or Rafinha in the deal if Lpool is open to that.
 
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BarçaBarça

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If they don't sell we might opt for Griezmann and Arthur. They would cost 150 mil together and than it's game over for Coutinho. As I said I am 90% sure we won't get both Coutinho and Griezmann so it's either Coutinho now or Griezmann in summer.

Honestly I would be thrilled if we sign Coutinho but to be fair 180 mil is definitely too much. 150 mil including variables should be the upper limit. We should also consider including Gomes or Rafinha in the deal if Lpool is open to that.

I think 150M is our upper limit. But I'm not sure that a Coutinho-transfer makes Griezmann less possible in the summer.
Remember that we went from an expected spending of 80-100M€ this summer to a 33M income - that makes a move for both Coutinho this January and Griezmann this summer financially possible, imo.
 

Raketa10

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I think 150M is our upper limit. But I'm not sure that a Coutinho-transfer makes Griezmann less possible in the summer.
Remember that we went from an expected spending of 80-100M€ this summer to a 33M income - that makes a move for both Coutinho this January and Griezmann this summer financially possible, imo.

I agree it's possible but is it wise? We should keep the balance in the squad, Suarez won't leave next summer for sure and having Messi, Suarez, Griezmann, Coutinho and Dembele could potentially create huge dis-balance in the squad. If we get Coutinho I would rather go for controlling midfielder than Griezmann next summer. None of these players would be willing to sit on the bench and to be fair it would be stupid to bench any of them considering their salaries.

I haven't seen Arthur play but if he is that good it would make much more sense to go for Coutinho + Arthur or Griezmann + Arthur than for Coutinho + Griezmann. We should aim to have competitive well balanced team and not "Harlem Globetrotters show" in the city. I might be wrong but that's my opinion.

Also there is a problem with CB possition if Masche goes to China. This should also be our top priority since we need 4 CB's.
 
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Xaviniesta

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He's coming /s

[tw]948149539294265344[/tw]
[tw]948158510696603648[/tw]

edit: im not sure if the 2nd tweet (the message) is real or not

but i do remember dembele's friends/family doing the same thing and he did eventually come
 
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springfield

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These prices are stupid. He is not available for CL and Liverpool want 180 million? Lol.

Fuck it. Just develop our youngsters for fuck sake. There is alot of talent in Spanish football which can be bought at reasonable prices. Look at that idiot Ceballos. If he had half a brain he would have joined us.

People talk about the market but the market to s insane. I would give D Suarez or Rafinha plus 100 million. End of story.

He's still at Barcelona next season. It's not about the CL. Iniesta can't play all games probably, we might be happy if he even stays injury free. Coutinho joining would give some more possibilities because besides Iniesta, there is none with a great creative mind. And because of the shitty transfers last years, the club doesn't have time for young talent to develop. Barcelona was to late to replace Xavi, and they are to late to replace Iniesta. They should have bought someone years, that could learn the style of play and adapt.
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
He's coming /s

[tw]948149539294265344[/tw]
[tw]948158510696603648[/tw]

edit: im not sure if the 2nd tweet (the message) is real or not

but i do remember dembele's friends/family doing the same thing and he did eventually come

:facepalm: No way this is true.
 

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