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Silva was a final third player/CAM-winger hybrid before his thirties. Not really comparable to Pedri.
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Silva was a final third player/CAM-winger hybrid before his thirties. Not really comparable to Pedri.
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Weren't you at one point of the opinion Puig is better than Pedri?
Bobo32
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That's the way I still see Pedri, despite his willingness to slowly jog back into the first space to recieve and pass it sideways now and again.
In the euros, he played more advanced, and he looked better.
Yeah I still think so, but Puig played less than 600mins last season, spread out as you know. When he plays 600 or even 300 minutes in a row, he will maybe make me change my mind.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Imagine twerking for Puig and calling Pedri's highlights piss poor.
Atm Pedri is clearly above Puig but we need to see puig in many matches in a row before finishing his chapter, thats why i want a loan of him to another smaller club in which he will get safe minutes to prove if he could be able to play for a big club.
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Every player passes it sideways at some point in possession-oriented play. That's what recycling possession is called. He plays plenty of progressive balls, which the stats show. Also runs the most for his team in every game, yet he is always "tired" and "exhausted" according to you. Regarding his position, it doesn't matter what you see, he became a CM as the season progressed. Played CM in a 3-4-3/3-5-2, played Xavi-like CM for Spain at the EUROs.
If you look at Olympic now then Pedri is indeed much more tire compare to Euro (he had like 2 weeks rest before playing). He also played a more offensive role and a ball carrier as well.
Bobo32
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A sideways pass can be very different to another sideways pass. It is crucial to pass it sideways. I think he misses opportunities to progress too often (then sometimes he tries too early too). I am often disappointed in his choices, but he is young and this can be improved.
He runs many meters, but if you went out for a jog for 90 minutes you'd run more meters than he does in a game. It's not about meters but about running or sprinting in the right moment.
No he doesn't play at all like Xavi (who by the way himself played as a sort of #10 for Spain under Del Bosque, with both Busi and Xabi behind). Pedri is more often expecteded to be in "space 2" rather than "space 1", and he is more suited to be even more in that space than he is.
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You literally said that Xavi played higher up the pitch for Spain, which he did. Pedri fulfills the same function for this Spain. For Spain, Xavi was also in "space 2".
Bobo32
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I misinterpreted that sentence then. Ok, in Spain in the euros he had a similar although not equal position as Xavi had in del Bosques Spain (LE played 4-1-2-3 just as Barcelona, VdB played 4-2-3-1)
I think Xavi was certain to play the central position of these three AM:s, whereas Pedri would prefer to be in one of the flank ones just like Silva or Iniesta. Maybe this will change with time.
Bobo32
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I'm not completely sure about Pedri, and I'd like to add Alba, but otherwise it's fine! Oh, Puig too!
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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I think depay has also the special magic
BusiTheKing
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How do the people claiming he's a top midfielder in Europe reconcile the two notions that
1) our midfield consists of two of the best midfielders in Europe (Frenkie and Pedri) + Busquets who also played for Spain NT, which in Pedri's case is an unquestionable stamp of a world class player for some people right now.
2) our midfield was pretty underwhelming during the last season and was dominated repeatedly by lower teams
There is some serious cognitive dissonance in work there.
Either our players are great and our midfield is great. Or our players are mediocre and our midfield is mediocre. The margin accounted for by 'balance' in the setup is only so big.
1) our midfield consists of two of the best midfielders in Europe (Frenkie and Pedri) + Busquets who also played for Spain NT, which in Pedri's case is an unquestionable stamp of a world class player for some people right now.
2) our midfield was pretty underwhelming during the last season and was dominated repeatedly by lower teams
There is some serious cognitive dissonance in work there.
Either our players are great and our midfield is great. Or our players are mediocre and our midfield is mediocre. The margin accounted for by 'balance' in the setup is only so big.
For one it's a team sport. Defence, midfield and offense aren't independent from each other.
--> Our forwards created zero space for our midfield.. all ball to feet players with no threat behind or physicality
--> the less we talk about our defenders the better
Then again, I don't think Pedri specifically was a world class midfielder last season, and I doubt anyone here would claim that. But he's shown a damn nice progression resulting in a fantastic Euro. I thought his performances for Spain were even better than the ones for us.
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