8 - Pedri

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Play him deeper and build the midfield around him, not around finished Busi or Fraud de Jong..

I am not sure that he is the answer.

Anyway, he is not the player to build midfield around.
He is a player with whom you surround/build around someone else, who is a gem/a leader/more on the ball.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
In ideal world you don't build your midfield/game around a 19 yo kid, regardless of how talented he is. We didn't even do that with Messi.

But we're not living in a perfect world.
 
This need needa to be loaned out until hes 23 at least. Im afraid b.c hes young and spabish, he will end up playing forever for 10 years and we would have won nothing again. The time of tiny players ia gone and barca cant see it.
Phisical players is what we need. Its pointless to have good technique if you have the body of a 12 year old
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Pedri : 'We made great signings, but it is clear we are not at Champions League level'

This is so sad. Our own players have given up on even qualifying past the CL groups because of how bad the manager is.

Does anyone really think we'll win LaLiga when the players are making statements like that??
 

vuji_31

Senior Member
This need needa to be loaned out until hes 23 at least. Im afraid b.c hes young and spabish, he will end up playing forever for 10 years and we would have won nothing again. The time of tiny players ia gone and barca cant see it.
Phisical players is what we need. Its pointless to have good technique if you have the body of a 12 year old
They say millitary technology is 20 years forward


Barca managment is opposite.
When others start to play with aliens and holographs we will start signing physicall players.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Pedri said they are a young team also.. he is 20 in a month and other than that only Balde at 19 is young really.

It is like everyone at club has inbuilt excuses as to why Barca fail.

That leads to being unaccountable and drop in standards when failure is so easily 'explained' away.

Tonight from president coach and players it has been 'Inter winning killed us' and 'we are a young team learning'.

No direction.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
Pedri said they are a young team also.. he is 20 in a month and other than that only Balde at 19 is young really.

It is like everyone at club has inbuilt excuses as to why Barca fail.

That leads to being unaccountable and drop in standards when failure is so easily 'explained' away.

Tonight from president coach and players it has been 'Inter winning killed us' and 'we are a young team learning'.

No direction.
Team doesn't have any more or less youth than most other top teams really.

Madrid have Rodrygo/Vini/Tchouameni and sometimes Camavinga in the starting lineup, Bayern have Musiala and Davies there, Chelsea with RJ/Mount/Gallagher etc. Not really that out of line with top teams that there are some youngsters regularly playing, maybe Gavi/Balde/Pedri are a little on the younger side, but doesn't really seem an excuse for a huge humiliation just because you have a couple young players.

Laporta is trying to spread that narrative in order to hide his own shortcomings in the way he's dealt with this past transfer market but everyone should see through it as the team isn't overly young compared to European competitors.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
The "he's just a kid" excuses are starting to run a little thin for the big games where he gets overshadowed/overmatched. I know he was played out of position today, but his inability to dominate big games is becoming a trend now.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Quoted from the other topic, let's keep it here and create some fire ;)

not according to France football; Pedri and Gavi were supposed to be the best young players in the world

Politics, propaganda, interests, money, sponsors, keeping Barca's brand alive, keeping Barca's fans happy since Uefa will need us in the future to make more money on us in 10 years.

The same as how when clubs from your (Slovenia) or my country (Croatia) play vs Milan or similar and in every match you have at least one penalty kick award for big teams, a few questionable free kicks on the edge of the box etc.
Or remember France-Croatia WC final, every call at 0:0 was for France.

There are "levels" in business and sport.
France, Germany, England, Barca, Real, Bayern, EPL teams = if possible need to win.
Uefa and FIFA want Brazil, France, England, Germany (big or big and rich countries) in finals. Imagine Cyprus, Iceland, Slovakia, Hungary in WC finals instead of France-Germany (the richest countries in Europe).
Or CL final between Czech and Romanian team instead of mighty Barca vs Real/City etc.

I am not saying that these small teams from Romania can actually win, but you get the point. Even if they do have a chance, refs will help to the biggest/richest teams.

Now, after all of that, just go back to Pedri/Gavi awards.
If 3 players are as equally as good, which one will get the award: some kid from poor Chile, some kid from Eastern European Slovakia or some kid from one of the richest (yet falling) giants in the world: Barca?
If you give an award to a kid from Slovakia, will sponsors (let's say selling shirts) and Uefa (from tv rights) get more money? Not really, isn't it?
But if you give the award to Pedri/Gavi, 100s of Millions of Barca fans from Europe/Usa/Asia will get the injection of hope and they will again buy their pay per view subscriptions, go to Camp Nou matches or buy their annually Barca's shirt = this time Pedri's.
Also, if Barca's brand stays alive and relevant, Uefa will earn 100s of millions on Barca-Real, Barca-Bayern, Barca-City matches in 2025, 2030 and 2035.
If Barca's brand and importance dies, Uefa is losing a giant and their future matches won't be interesting. So, Uefa wants healthy, rich, big Barca with some ray of hope for the future for their fans.
On the other hand, if you give an award to a player from Slovakian Slovan Bratislava, who on Earth will watch their matches, who will buy their shirts, who will buy pay per view from Slovan-Trnava or Slovan in Europa league?
Uefa is losing tons of money, tv matches, shirts, sponsors, Asian or Usa fans etc.

And then, since the whole world is driven by money, power and influences, now think again whether Pedri's/Gavi's award is really about footballing abilities? Or is it about SOME footballing skills and way more about a brand, influence, money, interests, long term monopoly by Uefa and Fifa?

:papaperez:
 
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ajnotkeith

Senior Member
The "he's just a kid" excuses are starting to run a little thin for the big games where he gets overshadowed/overmatched. I know he was played out of position today, but his inability to dominate big games is becoming a trend now.

Especially when you see there are other youngsters like Musiala consistently playing at high levels even in CL, who are allegedly supposed to be worse.

It makes you think.
 

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