8 - Pedri

[serghei]

The club is fucking it up big time imo with rushing young talents. Best way to ruin their morale and get them injured. Should have taken a hit for 4-5 years and took an approach like Dortmund and other teams relying massively on kids. Low pressure, making top 2-3 enough and so on. We got into this fantasy of competing at the top right away and drew the short stick imo. A league title is nice, but it's not enough if we lose these young players and they don't mature properly.

 

[JamDav1982]

Apparently this is same injury he got in February and was out for longer than expected as Xavi/coaches rushed him back.

At time it was reported Pedri environment was not happy.

This time round the club insists that cant happen and could be up to 5 weeks to make sure no relapse.

 

[Porque]

The club is fucking it up big time imo with rushing young talents. Best way to ruin their morale and get them injured. Should have taken a hit for 4-5 years and took an approach like Dortmund and other teams relying massively on kids. Low pressure, making top 2-3 enough and so on. We got into this fantasy of competing at the top right away and drew the short stick imo. A league title is nice, but it's not enough if we lose these young players and they don't mature properly.

What do you think of Bellingham and Gavi?

 

[Devils]

It's over.

 

[JamDav1982]

What do you think of Bellingham and Gavi?

Not a peep about Gavi.

Have called him on these 'rules' before.

There will be some rule about each case being different etc.. yet it is sweeping statements that are made.

 

[serghei]

What do you think of Bellingham and Gavi?

Two very different players . You need to be more specific than that if you want a serious answer.

Bellingham is an elite talent at AM position, better than Musiala based on what I've seen and obviously better than Pedri at everything in the offensive department.

Gavi is a completely different player and more defensive oriented to me. More of an off the ball player.

 

[JamDav1982]

Two very different players .

Rules for different coaches is more accurate.

Not a peep when Gavi played 3000+ minutes at 17.

 

[Raketa10]

This guy is always injured! During the last two seasons he was probably more injured than Dembele.

 

[JamDav1982]

There are literally reports of Xavi rushing back Pedri and him relapsing on this exact same injury previously.

Same as what was reported with Fati... rushed him back then fucked him for near enough a whole year.

Imagine this was being said of other coaches and the meltdown about 'incompetence' etc.

 

[serghei]

Rules for different coaches is more accurate.

Not a peep when Gavi played 3000+ minutes at 17.

He doesn't seem to get injured as much. So he must have better fitness than Pedri. No other logical explanation, they are managed by the same staff memebers and one gets injured a lot and the other not nearly so.

Players are different to each other obviously. Some get injured more often, some are more naturally resilient and tough, and handle top level better physically as their body is built differently, different genes, musculature, etc.

 

[Porque]

Two very different players .

Everyone is. Some can handle the physical load at young ages, some can't. Check Messi injury problems in his first 3 seasons in the first team. In todays day and age we would be talking of an injury prone player, and we should sell him.

While Gavi and Bellingham play hard/explosive and have no qualms.

I think though, the worry with Pedri is that he is not an explosive player (like Messi and Araujo) and yet he has recurrent injury problems.

 

[serghei]

Everyone is. Some can handle the physical load at young ages, some can't. Check Messi injury problems in his first 3 seasons in the first team.

While Gavi and Bellingham play hard/explosive and have no qualms.

I think though, the worry with Pedri is that he is not an explosive player (like Messi and Araujo) and yet he has recurrent injury problems.

What I wrote above more or less.

Your worry is legit, he struggles to deal with the intensity and pace of the modern game on a physical level.

 

[serghei]

Imo he has injury problems because he is trying to up his intensity and physical performance without him being an athletic player. Unfortunately, I don't see how he is gonna become world class with such a feeble body. His technical level is very good, but it needs to be insanely good to make up for his athletic penalty and it isn't so.

To stay fit, he has to play at a comfortable and tolerable level of intensity, and for him, that level is way lower than what most teams play with, especially in CL. It is gonna be extremely difficult to influence big games operating on such low pace and intensity levels. Even if you are gifted technically.

 

[JamDav1982]

He doesn't seem to get injured as much. So he must have better fitness than Pedri. No other logical explanation, they are managed by the same staff memebers and one gets injured a lot and the other not nearly so.

Players are different to each other obviously. Some get injured more often, some are more naturally resilient and tough, and handle top level better physically as their body is built differently, different genes, musculature, etc.

False..

You were claiming this when Pedri played the minutes that season as if was a rule for all young players and not a peep when Gavi doing same at younger age.

Mental gymnastics.

But aye ignore the reports of this injury and how it is same injury he relapsed on previously when Xavi/coaches rushed him back.

Or ignore how Araujo went off with tight muscles in a game then plays 90 mins a few days later then out for weeks.

Or how Fati got injured playing more minutes than was advised.

If this was all claimed about other coaches would be never ending claims of 'incompetence' etc.

 

[serghei]

Of course I don't believe there's a rule that works for all players . It's absurd.