8 - Pedri
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JamDav1982
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Was reported at time he signed.
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Ok. In case people forgot or missed it then.
Bobo32
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That's great, a good game, although he looked pretty tired there for a while.
Let's see how he develops, and what his status will be if he plays like now but is 24 rather than 18. If he gets to play more in the middle of the pitch he will surely change some habits and his vision, but I don't think he will ever play like Iniesta.
My comparison with Di Maria has made many forum members laugh. Di Maria was regarded as top 3 in the world for a while, just like Iniesta. I always prefered Iniesta obviously. He oozed of talent, painted with a large brush and an easy hand and his vision and timing was close to perfect. He had the "matador" aspect in him in that he invited the press in order to beat it with a dribble or a pass - this is something that Messi, Xavi, Busquets, Thiago and also Puig has, but I don't yet see in Pedri. Like Di Maria, I see him wanting to force the play more by attacking a defender, and he either succeeds or is forced to pass backwards or sideways. He is more direct, and more of a complementary player - a spark - than a player to build a team around, based on his style, I say.
I like Pedris long passes, and he has a tendency to find nice one-touch passes (don't know the english word). I also liked his pass to Messi in the end of last game, perfect timing. I don't see him being aware of three, four passing options at the same time however, and I often want him five meters differently positionally. He is young and might change my mind. I still like him already.
Catta
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You are trying to hard to find weaknesses in Pedris game, while ignoring every with Puig.
Just face it, Pedri at 18 is better than Puig will ever be, and he is also much smarter, he knows his weaknesses, that's why he is improving his strength, by doing extra work in the gym. And he will continue to improve in other areas to, while Puig will be the same player at 30 like he is today.
Just face it, Pedri at 18 is better than Puig will ever be, and he is also much smarter, he knows his weaknesses, that's why he is improving his strength, by doing extra work in the gym. And he will continue to improve in other areas to, while Puig will be the same player at 30 like he is today.
Fake news dawgs.
Bar?a deny Las Palmas president Miguel ?ngel Ram?rez claims that the Catalan club could pay 30M-35M with clauses for Pedri. Bar?a sources put the transfer at a maximum of 20M euros between the 5M fixed and variables [tv3]
Bobo32
Senior Member
What pettyness!
I don't give a shit about who is or becomes better. Right now I see Puig as superior, and he will develop more with more playing time and trust (he needs to be a bit more concentrated and calm), but is already a great midfielder. If Pedri develops into a better player than Puig I would be happy and enjoy watching Barcelona more.
Bobo32
Senior Member
I see him as a pretty good finisher, at least potentially
What are his physical attributes? f.e acc, pace, agility?
edit: I'd enjoy a pic
Gnidrologist
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I've been one of the Puigs most ardent defenders in this forum before you showed up, but even i have to admit that Pedri at this point is a magnitude above him at basically every aspect of the game except between the lines passing. You seem to have joined here solely as a groupie of Puig and i have certain second hand embarrassment from some of your posts.
One thing that some users have already talked about is that Pedri has that incredibly calm swag, la pausa in him, which is very lacking in Puig, who seems to be too eager to do something at all times. Something that Pedri sometimes lacks. Serghei said right that it would be great if they could learn from each other their best parts to annihilate their flaws, but as it stands, Puig needs to put up more than Pedri and he is already senior to him.
Only thing that is favorable to Puig in current narrative is that he really hasn't played much under Koeman and, when he has been put on the field, he was mostly forced to play alongside with sub-optimal makeshift squad members, often at times, when match was already decided and there was chaos on the field. But he still shined. It's hard to say how he would've developed, if given the same exposure to first team minutes as Pedri, who is obviously Koeman's favorite youngling. I still don't trust Koeman enough to assume that his decisions are solely based on merit alone.
Bobo32
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Nevermind, I found some pictures myself of both Pedris and Di Marias (to continue on that thread) FM profiles, hope I managed to attach them...
Technically they are both very good, with dribbling as their best attribute.
Mental attributes are good as well, with flair as the standout, and positioning (and bravery+leadership) as weak points
Physically they are both agile and quick, but Di Maria is a couple points faster.
PPM wise, they both have "tries killer ball" and "runs with ball often" (these are very important in FM for the players 'style') and their positions are almost identical.
So in FM, they are more similar than what I'd thought, and what I think they are IRL. Of course this might change until next edition. I think Pedris workrate and maybe aggression should be raised a bit, maybe positioning as well, it isn't quite as bad as FM has it.
To speak about real life in FM attributes I do think he lacks a bit of positioning, team work (read up on what it means in FM), off the ball, decisions, anticipation and composure, and I would want him to have the PPM dictates tempo for example - IF he is to play in the centre of midfield in the 4-3-3 I think Barcelona should play. He might of course improve
I have not argued against his talent, he is clearly one of the best 17-18yo that I've seen. Messi was better and maybe Thiago but after that I'm not sure. What I'm discussing is what his style is and what role he should have.
JamDav1982
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Took a new low... comparing players on FM.
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They would be pretty similar on FM as they are both attacking creative players. Doesn't mean anything other than that.
To suggest that he lacks teamwork based on FM is outrageous
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