9 - Luis Suárez - v1

[Clockwise]

Bale was 23 when he went for 100m. Suarez will be close to 28 when he starts playing again after the ban. That alone is a huge difference. And Bale wasn't having odd gastronomic preferences.

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(4)Or he may ruin everything. he is no doubt at the peak of his game, but at 28, nobody in the world would bet 50m on him giving 3-4 more years. 2 at max, against sanchez who at least has 5-6 years, and is yet to reach his peak.

a Very very Important point that the board and some cules seem to be missing on. Is 2 or max 3 seasons (that is, if he has no incidents in those seasons to earn him a long time ban) worth all the trouble and nearly 100M?

 

[te amo barca]

I can see it now: Suarez biting Pepe and causing a big fight then both red carded and suspended for 4 months

 

[instinct]

Its a trap, our management is deluded, if its lucho's decision, he is making a mistake. And this is going to be worst worst decision this management has made, and possibly the worst transfer ever in the world, for any club in any league.

Seriously, I don't understand some people here.
It's a fact that Lucho has more football knowledge than anyone of us here but people still try to look in the future and state it as a fact that this will be the ''worst worst decision''.
NOBODY here knows Lucho's plans. If he demands a high-profile and mobile striker to improve the team, Suarez is the best option out there. It's annoying. You people seriously believe that Lucho doesn't know what he does? That he doesn't know that Suarez character is a risk? Hell, everyone knows it, especially people who pay millions of euros for a player know what a gamble it is, it's stupid to think otherwise. Suarez is not a hopeless case and regardless of his personality he ALWAYS gives 110% on the pitch. He is ambitious and does everything to win. We need characters in our team, especially since Puyol, Xavi (probably) and Valdes left. We only have ''good guys''.
Suarez offers us various possibilities. He's a world-class footballer and extremely ambitious. His character is something we should take care of but it's stupid to think that our coaching staff won't do this.

But yeah, sorry, you guys exactly know that he'll be a failure and the worst worst worst worst worst worst decision this managment has made, possible THE WORST TRANSFER IN THE WORLD, IN HISTORY, FOREVER...without even having a clue what Lucho plans.

Well done!!!!

 

[Icarium]

This CAN go down as the worst transfer of barca, not just by this board. This is going to come back to BITE us. But to be honest Suarez will add more than Sanchez. Suarez is a world class, he proved that last season. If board thinks this transfer can save their asses, they are in for surprise.

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[xavi_the_Boss]

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a Very very Important point that the board and some cules seem to be missing on. Is 2 or max 3 seasons (that is, if he has no incidents in those seasons to earn him a long time ban) worth all the trouble and nearly 100M?

He would be 30 after 3 seasons.Thats really not that old.

 

[darthvader7888]

Seriously, I don't understand some people here.
It's a fact that Lucho has more football knowledge than anyone of us here but people still try to look in the future and state it as a fact that this will be the ''worst worst decision''.
NOBODY here knows Lucho's plans. If he demands a high-profile and mobile striker to improve the team, Suarez is the best option out there. It's annoying. You people seriously believe that Lucho doesn't know what he does? That he doesn't know that Suarez character is a risk? Hell, everyone knows it, especially people who pay millions of euros for a player know what a gamble it is, it's stupid to think otherwise. Suarez is not a hopeless case and regardless of his personality he ALWAYS gives 110% on the pitch. He is ambitious and does everything to win. We need characters in our team, especially since Puyol, Xavi (probably) and Valdes left. We only have ''good guys''.
Suarez offers us various possibilities. He's a world-class footballer and extremely ambitious. His character is something we should take care of but it's stupid to think that our coaching staff won't do this.

But yeah, sorry, you guys exactly know that he'll be a failure and the worst worst worst worst worst worst decision this managment has made, possible THE WORST TRANSFER IN THE WORLD, IN HISTORY, FOREVER...without even having a clue what Lucho plans.

Well done!!!!

How do you know Lucho wants him? For all we know, the board might be buying him to save their asses.

Even if it is Lucho's decision to buy him, that doesn't mean it's the correct one.

 

[Butaan4barca]

Seriously, I don't understand some people here.
It's a fact that Lucho has more football knowledge than anyone of us here but people still try to look in the future and state it as a fact that this will be the ''worst worst decision''.
NOBODY here knows Lucho's plans. If he demands a high-profile and mobile striker to improve the team, Suarez is the best option out there. It's annoying. You people seriously believe that Lucho doesn't know what he does? That he doesn't know that Suarez character is a risk? Hell, everyone knows it, especially people who pay millions of euros for a player know what a gamble it is, it's stupid to think otherwise. Suarez is not a hopeless case and regardless of his personality he ALWAYS gives 110% on the pitch. He is ambitious and does everything to win. We need characters in our team, especially since Puyol, Xavi (probably) and Valdes left. We only have ''good guys''.
Suarez offers us various possibilities. He's a world-class footballer and extremely ambitious. His character is something we should take care of but it's stupid to think that our coaching staff won't do this.

But yeah, sorry, you guys exactly know that he'll be a failure and the worst worst worst worst worst worst decision this management has made, possible THE WORST TRANSFER IN THE WORLD, IN HISTORY, FOREVER...without even having a clue what Lucho plans.

Well done!!!!

sure he does have more knowledge than any of us, but that doesn't imply he is going to make all the right decisions ? wonder why football managers are sacked every fortnight ?

Now, i was not pointing that to lucho, i fully back and trust him. At the end of the day if it really is suarez in barcelona, and sanchez out. My affiliations are going to shift. But let me just point out my perception how those decision are made by him and the board.

1. On the field tactics, yeah how the player will perform and how he fills a particular role that a manager needs . (my sole argument was based on this only)
2. Shirts sales : yeah football is really all about money, No club plays for charity or to sooth the eyes of its loyal fans. They make money, from shirts sales, player image rights, sponsorships, media rights, representation in every country, events, adds, museum, tickets, online stores, online markets etc. etc.
3. Semantic analysis and social media perceptions, on hell yeah, our comments are overall being tracked, with all those keywords, to provide overall picture, e.g
from twitter, facebook, barcaforum and all the possible sites to give something like "75% of the people want suarez to replace sanchez"

I think sometime management does pushes particualr transfer on the coach. I if you ask me overall suarez transfer is all about the money making.

Believe it or not, negativity is a form of popularity, People do enjoy drama's and with these recent events suarez popularity is showing an upward trend (even if negative), he is most talked player now a days. Even my friends who don't watch football, know this one player. None other, this one only.

And if finally he arrives, half of this forum members might actually buy his shirt too. Including me.

 

[instinct]

sure he does have more knowledge than any of us, but that doesn't imply he is going to make all the right decisions ? wonder why football managers are sacked every fortnight ?

Now, i was not pointing that to lucho, i fully back and trust him. At the end of the day if it really is suarez in barcelona, and sanchez out. My affiliations are going to shift. But let me just point out my perception how those decision are made by him and the board.

1. On the field tactics, yeah how the player will perform and how he fills a particular role that a manager needs . (my sole argument was based on this only)
2. Shirts sales : yeah football is really all about money, No club plays for charity or to sooth the eyes of its loyal fans. They make money, from shirts sales, player image rights, sponsorships, media rights, representation in every country, events, adds, meuseam, tickets, online stores, online markets etc. etc.
3. Semantic analysis and social media perceptions, on hell yeah, our comments are overall being tracked, with all those keywords, to provide overall picture, e.g
from twitter, facebook, barcaforum and all the possible sites to give something like "75% of the people want suarez to replace sanchez"

I think sometime management does pushes particualr transfer on the coach. I if you ask me overall suarez transfer is all about the money making.

Believe it or not, negativity is a form of popularity, People do enjoy drama's and with these recent evens suarez popularity is showing an upward trend (even if negative), he is most talked player now a days. Even my friends who don't watch football, know this one player. None other, this one only.

And if finally he arrives, half of this forum memeber might actually buy his shirt too. Including me.

Fair enough, I agree with you here.

But I'd put my focus on his skills as a footballer rather than on his marketing value and I think that we all here agree that he is a world-class footballer who could offer us a variety of new dimensions for our attack. I think that a striker is very much needed at this point. People forget that our attack was ineffective as hell against parked buses. Think about Atletico, Granada, Elche, Betis etc. Of course we scored 100 goals in the league but we still had problems to score goals.
Suarez is the perfect solution for me. I'd love to keep Alexis but it seems that he does want to leave and it makes no sense to force him to stay and if we let him go, I'll be happy with Suarez and I'll support Suarez because I know what he is able to offer and I know that he'll give his heart for this team.
I do believe that this transfer would be worth the money. The managment knows how much they are able to spend and if they regard other things like marketing, reputation etc, I'm fine with this, it's normal for a company but I focus on our perspective in the football area and Suarez as one of the best footballers during the past season will help us getting to the top again, I'm sure of that.

 

[instinct]

How do you know Lucho wants him? For all we know, the board might be buying him to save their asses.

Even if it is Lucho's decision to buy him, that doesn't mean it's the correct one.

I believe that he board knows that trophies will secure their place. It's essential to work together with the coach who knows how a team should look like to spend wisely.
If it's true that Lucho blocked the Luiz transfer and his assistant wanted to sign Bravo, we know that Lucho is the man in charge, together with Zubi. Maybe some board members required Suarez and Lucho thought about it and said yes to a transfer but I assume that he approved the Suarez transfer.

I never said that the decision is 100% right. I regard our current team and our future perspectives and to me, Suarez would be a great addition to the squad and he do offers us much because we played without a proper 9 for a long time.
Furthermore, I believe in Lucho. I believe that he knows what he does, he has so much time to prepare for the new season, unlike Tata who was thrown into cold water at that time.
His transfer could turn out to be a failure, yes but if our coaching staff knows what to do, then I don't see why it shouldn't work. They know that Messi is the key player of the team, they know that Neymar performed better at the NT and they know that Suarez has a special character, so I expect them to take care of those aspects.

 

[Messi_Goal]

It sounds like Suarez is going to be a Barcelona player, How does he fit in to the team and are people going to be happy with the signing and get behind him with his appalling behavior. To be honest I would rather keep Sanchez, Sell Pedro and bring in another forward.

 

[Butaan4barca]

Fair enough, I agree with you here.

But I'd put my focus on his skills as a footballer rather than on his marketing value and I think that we all here agree that he is a world-class footballer who could offer us a variety of new dimensions for our attack. I think that a striker is very much needed at this point. People forget that our attack was ineffective as hell against parked buses. Think about Atletico, Granada, Elche, Betis etc. Of course we scored 100 goals in the league but we still had problems to score goals.
Suarez is the perfect solution for me. I'd love to keep Alexis but it seems that he does want to leave and it makes no sense to force him to stay and if we let him go, I'll be happy with Suarez and I'll support Suarez because I know what he is able to offer and I know that he'll give his heart for this team.
I do believe that this transfer would be worth the money. The managment knows how much they are able to spend and if they regard other things like marketing, reputation etc, I'm fine with this, it's normal for a company but I focus on our perspective in the football area and Suarez as one of the best footballers during the past season will help us getting to the top again, I'm sure of that.

I think you just pointing our your self, our front three (messi, neymar,alexis) had 94 goals and some 30 odd assists among them. That ineffective ??? oooops.

I don't think suarez is a solution for parked buses, When you play slow tempo possession football, basically you give your opponents time to fall back, and stay back, and park the bus untill the ball in won back. I don't take it as a negative strategy but a natural reaction. If every one in your team is in opponents half, every opponent man marking your every player is back in his own, logically correct. Thats just puts 11 of them and some 10 of us in one half with mostly in the D.

Now every player we have is probably shorter that 99% of every player of all the teams we face just makes it more difficult. You can't really cross it effectively, any team with organized defense isn't going to let our player even touch the ball. Now here come a plan B , a tall striker. Now thats far too risky too considering he will be the only target, makes it again obvious that opponents can simply put in two tall defenders behind and infront of him. Job done.

Now speaking of a perfect solution, Well there is none, unfortunately. When you are going to dominate, teams are going to fall back, its a natural instinct. Simply doesn't leaves them with any other choice. And us pretty much exposed on counter attacks.

Now what next ? i wrote a while back. It makes our absolute necessity for, to have few players 1. Quick center backs. (someone like marquinhos who is known for his super speed).

2. Alexis and pedro, guys who do the dirty work for our stars : neymar and messi. These two have no doubt grown in maturity, especially there is an upward curve for neymar, whos defending and pressing is just getting better. But alexis is such a hardworker and good presser. besides his all dribbling, shooting, passing skills. If you really want to take most of out of , now 27, messi, you better save his energy for attack only.

3. Now the solution could be use of long range shootings. And a player like ramsey, rodrigez, or pogba ( i know all three are different, but they are midfielders with thunderbolt long shoots, like good accurate shoots).

now why this ? because i think our possession obsession has led to opponents adoption of tight defenses and fall back parked buses, plus strong counter attacking strategies. Since we rotate the balls a lot outside the box, most teams just sit back, with 3-4 players trying to win back the ball.

if we start those long range shoots, which we don't do at all, as we plan for tap in or walking over the goal line with the ball. Defenders don't charge to block shots.

How this will help, once the defenders start to charge, it will drag players out side the penalty area, creating gaps for diagonal, alexis, neymar runs, or over the head ball to messi and company.

Now this isn't suppose to be a standard thing, but one of the many changes, that are expected from lucho to retain our pride: tiki taka, but make us a bit more unpredictable and effective.

 

[darthvader7888]

Is his ban going to be appealed? If we're getting him, I hope the "no training" part of the ban is dropped. Otherwise, he'll probably be rusty as hell when he returns.

 

[Mitchell1978]

Yeah when Neymar was stuck out on the wing, and Messi playing as a 9 a lot of the time it didn't work, drop Messi deeper allow Neymar to roam and Suarez as the number 9. If you can't get Neymar Messi and Suarez playing well together then you just aren't a very good manager, simple as that.

If you drop Messi deeper you won't get the best out of him.

 

[Butaan4barca]

If you drop Messi deeper you won't get the best out of him.

yeah, sanchez can do that job, messi can be a real 9. And we don't need suarez.

 

[Hamzah]

Actually that's his best position. Messi just behind Suarez will be very good.