9 - Luis Suárez - v1

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JamDav1982

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People saying Suarez isn't getting any service, yet at Liverpool last season he didn't get much service but still created something out of nothing.

He was the first point of attack at Liverpool and was given the ball too feet and early as often as they could.

It is light and day to how he gets the ball at Barca.
 

JamDav1982

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When you've got such a fracture midfield of course your CF is going to be starved of service. Like I said, if it isn't the forwards playing with each other, they are not going to get balls at all. Midfield is creating almost nothing for them. It has nothing to do with Messi.

You are totally missing the point I am making. Not blaming Messi at all.

I am saying it is not Messi's fault it is the midfield being slow and ponderous and looking for Messi far too much which is killing things. He is getting the ball in areas he cant do much from at the expense of other players.
 

xxxxxx

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He was the first point of attack at Liverpool and was given the ball too feet and early as often as they could.

It is light and day to how he gets the ball at Barca.

Hmm..... Suarez has missed quite a few chances, so I don't understand why people are saying he's not getting any service.

The truth of the matter is, he's missing chances and looking sluggish at times.
 

JamDav1982

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I am concerned considering the sum of money.

Well look at Suarez, Ibrahimovic or Neymar at Barca compared to how they have been elsehwere.

The problem is not the quality of these players it is the way Barca play.

If you play slow, safe passing and only really look for Messi then no players will flourish like that.
 

JamDav1982

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Hmm..... Suarez has missed quite a few chances, so I don't understand why people are saying he's not getting any service.

The truth of the matter is, he's missing chances and looking sluggish at times.

How many chances did he miss today? Not many.
 

Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
You are totally missing the point I am making. Not blaming Messi at all.

I am saying it is not Messi's fault it is the midfield being slow and ponderous and looking for Messi far too much which is killing things. He is getting the ball in areas he cant do much from at the expense of other players.

And I disagree he's getting balls at the expense of other players. That suggests players actively trying to overplay Messi is the problem with the lack of fluidity and lack of quality service to other forwards, and that is not the case at all. I don't even think they're overplaying Messi at all.
 

JamDav1982

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And I disagree he's getting balls at the expense of other players. That suggests players actively trying to overplay Messi is the problem with the lack of fluidity and lack of quality service to other forwards, and that is not the case at all. I don't even think they're overplaying Messi at all.

100% I think they are overplaying Messi in the wrong areas at the expense of others and its doing no one any favours.

There is no coincidence that world class forwards are not quite the players they are elswhere than they are for Barca. Suarez is just the latest one.
 

Andrew M

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Well look at Suarez, Ibrahimovic or Neymar at Barca compared to how they have been elsehwere.

The problem is not the quality of these players it is the way Barca play.

If you play slow, safe passing and only really look for Messi then no players will flourish like that.

Neymar has been good this season and was only 21 when we signed him. At 27 you hope Suarez will take less time. I agree, though, that the we are playing is not helping
 

xxxxxx

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What chances were these?

Messi probably missed more and hes the greatest player ever.

You're seriously comparing Messi's misses compared to Suarez's? Messi's record speaks for itself.

I've yet to see why we paid 80m for Suarez. He owes a lot to the fans, considering of his past behaviour. The only way he can make it up to us is with goals, which he isn't doing all that much. It's not just the Getafe game, it's other games where he's missed chances.
 

JamDav1982

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You're seriously comparing Messi's misses compared to Suarez's? Messi's record speaks for itself.

I've yet to see why we paid 80m for Suarez. He owes a lot to the fans, considering of his past behaviour. The only way he can make it up to us is with goals, which he isn't doing all that much. It's not just the Getafe game, it's other games where he's missed chances.

I am saying Messi missed more and he is the greatest player ever. Suarez costing 80m doesnt mean he will score every chance.

You still havent pointed out these great chances he missed anyway.
 

Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
100% I think they are overplaying Messi in the wrong areas at the expense of others and its doing no one any favours.

There is no coincidence that world class forwards are not quite the players they are elswhere than they are for Barca. Suarez is just the latest one.

Oh of course, the Messi effect hurting other forwards.
 
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