Alexis Sanchez

[Sumlit]

I think we've stretched this long enough now, but let's go by your logic and assume that he'd score a bit less and assist a bit more. That'd keep his combined haul at status quo and thus in turn equal his stats here at Barca, winning me this whole argument!

That's assuming I meant he'd assist more than he assisted at Barca, and not that I meant he'd assist more than he'd score. That's also assuming his assist would go up at an equal number as his goals would go down, thus keeping his production status quo as you say.

So yeah, if we accept those assumptions and take them as reality, you indeed win this whole argument.

 

[linetty]

If Sturridge can do it, I'm sure Alexis could.

Alexis can only dream of Sturridge's finishing skills.

 

[Trickykid]

That's assuming I meant he'd assist more than he assisted at Barca, and not that I meant he'd assist more than he'd score. That's also assuming his assist would go up at an equal number as his goals would go down, thus keeping his production status quo as you say.

So yeah, if we accept those assumptions and take them as reality, you indeed win this whole argument.

Too many assumptions here. I'm off to celebrate my victory!

 

[KingMessi]

Too many assumptions here. I'm off to celebrate my victory!

You should host a party.

 

[Trickykid]

You should host a party.

Sure buddy, feel free to swing by Copenhagen! Beer and snacks on the house!

 

[Sumlit]

If Sturridge can do it, I'm sure Alexis could.

Apples to oranges comparison.

He don't need to score 20+ goals. 15 goals and 15 assists in EPL is very good.

In all competitions maybe, EPL only I don't see that hypothetical amount of production out of him at Liverpool, specially scoring wise.

However, that stat line would be great at Barca if they had gotten a consistent and constant second scoring threat for the left side. That's what I envisioned for Alexis at Barca as the third option/creative forward type.

 

[serghei]

Alexis can only dream of Sturridge's finishing skills.

Sanchez, 19 goals out of 66 shots. 1 goal every 3.4 shots taken.

Sturridge 21 goals out of 99 shots. 1 goal every 4.7 shots taken.


You're making judgments based not on documented facts, but on personal impression. Alexs has been very effective with his goal/shots conversion this last season. I don't think there is one player in Europe, in any league, that has a better conversion rate than 1 goal every 3.4 shots taken.

 

[serghei]

No it isn't, but I strongly doubt Alexis would score in the 20s at Liverpool or City. He might assist more, that I could certainly see, but not score more.

If Alexis would play in the EPL in this form, he'd probably make 40 goals + assists per season.

 

[Sumlit]

Sanchez, 19 goals out of 66 shots. 1 goal every 3.4 shots taken.

Sturridge 21 goals out of 99 shots. 1 goal every 4.7 shots taken.


You're making judgments based not on documented facts, but on personal impression. Alexs has been very effective with his goal/shots conversion this last season. I don't think there is one player in Europe, in any league, that has a better conversion rate than 1 goal every 3.4 shots taken.

This is one of the dumbest stats I constantly see bandied about. Alexis is so efficient simply because he does not shoot. He averages less than 2 shots per game, which is really really bad for a forward. You want your forwards to shoot. Goals per shot taken is a meaningless stat.

A better stat would be shots on target vs total shots. Now that would truly tell you if the player is just wasting shots that are going into the stands vs shots that are actually requiring the keeper to intervene.

If Alexis would play in the EPL in this form, he'd probably make 40 goals + assists per season.

HAHAHA. ok.

 

[Trickykid]

Sanchez, 19 goals out of 66 shots. 1 goal every 3.4 shots taken.

Sturridge 21 goals out of 99 shots. 1 goal every 4.7 shots taken.


You're making judgments based not on documented facts, but on personal impression. Alexs has been very effective with his goal/shots conversion this last season. I don't think there is one player in Europe, in any league, that has a better conversion rate than 1 goal every 3.4 shots taken.

In before "but but but, all of Alexis' goals were either flukes or empty goal tap-ins! Every single one of them!"

 

[linetty]

Goals per shot taken is a meaningless stat.

+1

And Alexis would make 40 goals+asists in the EPL? Good joke.

 

[Semi-Neutral]

He averages less than 2 shots per game, which is really really bad for a forward. You want your forwards to shoot.

Why? If he can get the same scoring output from fewer shots, there's no reason to give up possession by shooting.

 

[Sumlit]

Why? If he can get the same scoring output from fewer shots, there's no reason to give up possession by shooting.

Because if you don't shoot, you don't create scoring threat. If defenses know a player does not shoot that conditions the entire way they defend. In contrast, if they know this player is a shooting threat, they're going to change the way they defend him and create a ripple effect throughout the defense.

Forward players need to shoot. Alexis is barely averaging above 1.5 shots per game in all competitions, this is awful for a team's 2nd scoring option, which he was this year, whether he was meant to or not.

Shots per goal scored is a meaningless stat. If you want to gauge a forwards efficiency in shooting, you need to look at shots on target vs total shots. That at least tells you at what percentage the player is forcing saves from the keeper. Of course, ultimately that stat is also flawed because you don't know if the player is just constantly shooting from 50 yards and giving easy saves to the keeper.

 

[linetty]

http://www.whoscored.com/Players/25244/Fixtures/Alexis-Snchez

He tapped those stats at goalfests.

He always manages to score a goal or assist one but is completely useless most of the time & he is not even a "showy" player

 

[serghei]

Why? If he can get the same scoring output from fewer shots, there's no reason to give up possession by shooting.

Don't ask for reasons to questions that defy logic.