Alexis Sanchez

Pepe Silvia

Active member
Great style Alexis, even though makeup artists and hairstylists did your face and hair and other people picked that outfit for you. Told you what pose to be in. And of course that lighting. Not to mention some nice afterwards editing.

With that anyone can have the same style as Pep. Maybe he has the it factor idk
Make up artists and lighting don't matter much. Look at Messi's shoots. They have just as much talent behind the scenes but he still looks like a nerd to me. Alexis on the other hand, has that it factor on this pic.
 

Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
Messi's role was reduced but that didn't necessarily equate to allowing Alexis freedom to roam now did it? You can increase Messi's involvement and allow more room for others to move about (namely Alexis). Neymar seems to be acclimating nicely on the LW so I wouldn't change much with his role, but Alexis sure does need more interchanging with Messi in the middle to operate at a higher level. That's just my take on getting Alexis removed from the RW.

I don't see it. If anyone should be interchanging more with Messi it should be Neymar. I don't think Alexis would thrive down the middle as much as Neymar or Messi could. That wouldn't give him more freedom, but on the contrary reduce it.

Alexis is never going to feature at Barca as heavily and as freely as he does for Chile. Too many great and ball dominant players in this team. Alexis is always going to be forced into a role at Barca. I'd rather it be a more efficient (for him) deeper role of creating and supporting.
 

serghei

Senior Member
See that's my big problem. Everything is tailor made to suit Messi's likings when other players clearly suffer!!! Even a blind man can see this problem! I'm of the mold that Messi can do what is good for the team, not what he likes. 'oh no we don't want to upset Messi, Messi won't like that!' when we have talented players like Neymar, Alexis, Pedro, Villa, Ibra (to an extent) who suffered and could have used to benefit of a freer role but closed up to make Messi happy. Next year I want to see Messi playing for the team and I will be so pissed if players are again handcuffed for the sake of his happiness.

I tend to agree that with Tito and Tata our offensive plan has been pretty much "help Messi score many goals". That plan worked for Tito, because Messi was in crazy form for a large part of that season, until he got that tear and everything fell apart. Martino didn't have that luck, and although it seems that he wanted to make some changes, he didn't had the guts to follow them through and ended up being dominated by the locker room.

Everything seems to suggest a Messi-dependencia, but not one that caused by our lack of talent in offense, but a deliberate tactic that makes us look especially for Messi on the field and give the ball to him. We stopped being a team and playing as a team every since Pep left.

Neymar and Alexis are too good to sit in Messi's shadow. We need a real trio, not only in theory, but also in practice. Not Messi and the other two guys.
 
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Kohe321

New member
Any news on his injury? It was his shoulder, wasn't it? Hope it's not too bad, at least I got the impression it was just some discomfort.
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
I tend to agree that with Tito and Tata our offensive plan has been pretty much "help Messi score many goals". That plan worked for Tito, because Messi was in crazy form for a large part of that season, until he got that tear and everything fell apart. Martino didn't have that luck, and although it seems that he wanted to make some changes, he didn't had the guts to follow them through and ended up being dominated by the locker room.

Everything seems to suggest a Messi-dependencia, but not one that caused by our lack of talent in offense, but a deliberate tactic that makes us look especially for Messi on the field and give the ball to him. We stopped being a team and playing as a team every since Pep left.

Neymar and Alexis are too good to sit in Messi's shadow. We need a real trio, not only in theory, but also in practice. Not Messi and the other two guys.

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Kerrybai

New member
I tend to agree that with Tito and Tata our offensive plan has been pretty much "help Messi score many goals". That plan worked for Tito, because Messi was in crazy form for a large part of that season, until he got that tear and everything fell apart. Martino didn't have that luck, and although it seems that he wanted to make some changes, he didn't had the guts to follow them through and ended up being dominated by the locker room.

Everything seems to suggest a Messi-dependencia, but not one that caused by our lack of talent in offense, but a deliberate tactic that makes us look especially for Messi on the field and give the ball to him. We stopped being a team and playing as a team every since Pep left.

Neymar and Alexis are too good to sit in Messi's shadow. We need a real trio, not only in theory, but also in practice. Not Messi and the other two guys.

That's not true at all about Martino, and it was there for everyone to see this season. The play evolved less around Messi than it has since the 09/10 season. The team gravitated towards the right side where Sanchez and Alves were operating. Messi's touches, passes etc were dramatically down as a result.

Edit: I like what Tata attempted to do at the beginning but for some reason he took a U turn and it went all downhill. His tactics from December ruined us... I hope Lucho gets Messi more involved next season. As a playmaker with Neymar and Sanchez playing as an inside forward we could be unstoppable.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
@Kerrybai, yea, I agree Tata tried to change some things, but in the end he didn't have the courage or the will maybe to see his ideas implemented all the way through. His idea with Cesc as the 4th midfielder messed up the whole notion of a balanced 4-3-3. That made us even more dependend on Messi. In the end is not what he tried, it's what he end up playing like.

Maybe his intentions were good, but the fact that he abandoned them to not piss off some individuals -- if that really happened -- means he lacked decisiveness. Anyway you put it, he was not guilt free in all of this. He didn't brought the change we needed, instead he was the changed one.
 
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spark

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linetty

Guest
Every player plays better when given more space. No wonder he is performing better for Chile.

He cannot be given this freedom here, impossible.
 

Kerrybai

New member
@Kerrybai, yea, I agree Tata tried to change some things, but in the end he didn't have the courage or the will maybe to see his ideas implemented all the way through. His idea with Cesc as the 4th midfielder messed up the whole notion of a balanced 4-3-3. That made us even more dependend on Messi. In the end is not what he tried, it's what he end up playing like.

Maybe his intentions were good, but the fact that he abandoned them to not piss off some individuals -- if that really happened -- means he lacked decisiveness. Anyway you put it, he was not guilt free in all of this. He didn't brought the change we needed, instead he was the changed one.

I agree agree that under Tito we were too Messi centric. We had a good balance back around the start of Pep's tenure. Under Tata I felt we neglected what Messi was best at, i.e. his play making abilities. Maybe if Tata stuck to his original tactics we might have won silverware, I wonder will we ever find out why we suddenly took a U turn in December.
 
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Rufio

Guest
Great style Alexis, even though makeup artists and hairstylists did your face and hair and other people picked that outfit for you. Told you what pose to be in. And of course that lighting. Not to mention some nice afterwards editing.

With that anyone can have the same style as Pep. Maybe he has the it factor idk

Good job elevating the debate
 

ebieymjunior

Senior Member
"Alexis Sanchez has agreed personal terms with Juventus over a five-year deal worth €20 million, but the Serie A side have yet to conclude a deal with Barcelona."

I hope they mean that'll be his salary.

Manchester United have opened talks with Barcelona over a €25 million [£20.2m] move for Alexis Sanchez.

Seriously, can't they at least look at his estimated market value?
 

xxxxxx

Senior Member
Alexis is easily worth about £35m.

He's only 25, has 3 years left on his contract and is coming off the back of a really good season.
 

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