Alexis Sanchez

serghei

Senior Member
He always manages to score a goal or assist one but is completely useless most of the time & he is not even a "showy" player

No. He scores goals, he makes assists and runs to clear up spaces for our other players to exploit, he dribbles, tracks back and runs almost non-stop. This makes him a pretty complete player if you ask me. If Lucho is smart, he will hold on to players like him and Pedro.
 
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linetty

Guest
No. He scores goals, he makes assists and runs to clear up spaces for our other players to exploit, he dribbles, tracks back and runs almost non-stop. This makes him a pretty complete player if you ask me. If Lucho is smart, he will hold on to players like him and Pedro.
I agree on everything you said and I want him to stay. I'm also good with Pedro if Lucho gets the player out of him he once was.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Because if you don't shoot, you don't create scoring threat. If defenses know a player does not shoot that conditions the entire way they defend. In contrast, if they know this player is a shooting threat, they're going to change the way they defend him and create a ripple effect throughout the defense.

You are right. But you should tell that to the manager, not the players. Both him and Neymar have demonstrated the have great quality. Now it's the duty of the manager to make sure that quality, which we know is there (or should know), is showed on the field, through great performances.

Instead of denying the value, which is pretty much certified at this point, maybe we should all focuse on how to make that value show more often. I know some don't like him, but we should not confuse preference for a player with his quality.
 
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Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
You are right. But you should tell that to the manager, not the players. Both him and Neymar have demonstrated the have great quality. Now it's the duty of the manager to make sure that quality, which we know is there (or should know), is showed on the field, through great performances.

Instead of denying the value, which is pretty much certified at this point, maybe we should all focuse on how to make that value show more often. I know some don't like him, but we should not confuse preference for a player with his quality.

Not sure it is the manager when it's 3 seasons and 3 different managers that Alexis has averaged less than 2 shots per game in all competitions. It isn't the manager, it's the player and how he prefers to play.

However this should not be a knock on Alexis. It is not, because Barca are requiring him to score and be a scoring threat, but that's not what he should be playing as. He should be playing as the creative, energy tornado he is, not as the 2nd scoring option that he has been forced to be. 2 shots per game would be adequate for a creative, energetic and support winger. The Alexis of Chile.

The best thing that can happen to Alexis is for Neymar to blossom into a true and consistent scoring threat. Having 2 dominant and threatening forwards would allow Alexis to slot into that more comfortable and less pressured 3rd scoring option which will allow his true creative talents to shine.

However not so sure how quickly Neymar can turn into that. I still see Neymar as a better assister than scorer, which means Barca still have 2/3 forwards who are still better assisters than scorer. That still places a lot of the scoring threat and burden on Messi alone, which is liable to again be tightly marked rendered less efficient.
 

Pepe Silvia

Active member
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Now that is style. The only person out of Barca I have seen match that style in recent years is Pep. Damn this pic is crazy! Great style Alexis.
 

Pepe Silvia

Active member
Yeah we should ditch the RW and LW for RM and LM as Neymar and Alexis play better in deeper roles instead of hugging the touchline but the problem will be Messi being the lone striker and he prefers to play in the midfield as well
See that's my big problem. Everything is tailor made to suit Messi's likings when other players clearly suffer!!! Even a blind man can see this problem! I'm of the mold that Messi can do what is good for the team, not what he likes. 'oh no we don't want to upset Messi, Messi won't like that!' when we have talented players like Neymar, Alexis, Pedro, Villa, Ibra (to an extent) who suffered and could have used to benefit of a freer role but closed up to make Messi happy. Next year I want to see Messi playing for the team and I will be so pissed if players are again handcuffed for the sake of his happiness.
 

Behrox

Vice President of FC Barcelona
See that's my big problem. Everything is tailor made to suit Messi's likings when other players clearly suffer!!! Even a blind man can see this problem! I'm of the mold that Messi can do what is good for the team, not what he likes. 'oh no we don't want to upset Messi, Messi won't like that!' when we have talented players like Neymar, Alexis, Pedro, Villa, Ibra (to an extent) who suffered and could have used to benefit of a freer role but closed up to make Messi happy. Next year I want to see Messi playing for the team and I will be so pissed if players are again handcuffed for the sake of his happiness.
They are not handcuffed due to Messi. But do tell me if Neymar and Alexis deserve a free role over Don and Messi. You can only have so many players with free roles before shit hits the fan
 

Pepe Silvia

Active member
They are not handcuffed due to Messi. But do tell me if Neymar and Alexis deserve a free role over Don and Messi. You can only have so many players with free roles before shit hits the fan
According to your own comments, they are handcuffed because Messi prefers to play in the middle so we wouldn't be able to see them in the midfield as a result. No one is questioning Iniesta/Messi roaming, but we have to find a balance to get the most out of ALL our world class players.

People can say that Alexis goated this season but I will never be blinded by his stats and saw what I saw. The difference between him at Chile and him at Barca is night and day.

If it means Messi sharing his role with others or converting into some kind of hybrid to suit all our players, then so be it. That was my point.
 

Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
According to your own comments, they are handcuffed because Messi prefers to play in the middle so we wouldn't be able to see them in the midfield as a result. No one is questioning Iniesta/Messi roaming, but we have to find a balance to get the most out of ALL our world class players.

People can say that Alexis goated this season but I will never be blinded by his stats and saw what I saw. The difference between him at Chile and him at Barca is night and day.

If it means Messi sharing his role with others or converting into some kind of hybrid to suit all our players, then so be it. That was my point.

Sorry Pepe but that makes no sense. Messi's role was already heavily reduced this year vs the previous years and you saw how the team struggled. The answer is not to continue to reduce it, but to increase it back to the way it was. He is the best player on the team, makes no sense to reduce his role in favor of less talented and less productive players.

The job of Lucho will be to return Messi's involvement in team play as it was in previous seasons while at the same time increase the involvement of all other players. Never at the expense of Messi though.
 

Jadentheman

Active member
Now that is style. The only person out of Barca I have seen match that style in recent years is Pep. Damn this pic is crazy! Great style Alexis.

Great style Alexis, even though makeup artists and hairstylists did your face and hair and other people picked that outfit for you. Told you what pose to be in. And of course that lighting. Not to mention some nice afterwards editing.

With that anyone can have the same style as Pep. Maybe he has the it factor idk
 

Pepe Silvia

Active member
Sorry Pepe but that makes no sense. Messi's role was already heavily reduced this year vs the previous years and you saw how the team struggled. The answer is not to continue to reduce it, but to increase it back to the way it was. He is the best player on the team, makes no sense to reduce his role in favor of less talented and less productive players.

The job of Lucho will be to return Messi's involvement in team play as it was in previous seasons while at the same time increase the involvement of all other players. Never at the expense of Messi though.
Messi's role was reduced but that didn't necessarily equate to allowing Alexis freedom to roam now did it? You can increase Messi's involvement and allow more room for others to move about (namely Alexis). Neymar seems to be acclimating nicely on the LW so I wouldn't change much with his role, but Alexis sure does need more interchanging with Messi in the middle to operate at a higher level. That's just my take on getting Alexis removed from the RW.
 

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