Andrés Iniesta

[Gohan]

Iniesta vs. Zidane is a close one. But Andres wins /end

 

[DinhoR10]

Edit: Never mind

 

[CatalinR10]

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[e28makaveli]

since when are amazing goals everything? by that standard ibra is the best player in the world

Not everything, just one argument we can make for Zidane. Also it is not just one amazing goal. It is a bunch of amazing goals. That must count for something no?

At the end of the day, when two players are very good technically to the point where it is hard to differentiate the better, you've got to look at something else. Since goal tally is what matters most and since Zidane scored plenty with some pretty amazing ones, he edges on Iniesta as far I am concerned.

This is my only my humble opinion.

 

[DinhoR10]

Not everything, just one argument we can make for Zidane. Also it is not just one amazing goal. It is a bunch of amazing goals. That must count for something no?

At the end of the day, when two players are very good technically to the point where it is hard to differentiate the better, you've got to look at something else. Since goal tally is what matters most and since Zidane scored plenty with some pretty amazing ones, he edges on Iniesta as far I am concerned.

This is my only my humble opinion.

Trophies are what matters most not goals. But it doesn't matter because this debate is a waste of time, if you're a fan of zidane you'll always think he's better than iniesta and vice versa so it makes no sense arguing it.

 

[e28makaveli]

Trophies are what matters most not goals. But it doesn't matter because this debate is a waste of time, if you're a fan of zidane you'll always think he's better than iniesta and vice versa so it makes no sense arguing it.

I am actually a big fan of both

Arguments are good if we can take something out of them. So not really a waste of time.

 

[Gohan]

Amazing goals is the most bullshit reason to claim that one player is better than the other.. Seriously. How do beautiful goals make one player better than the other? It is about how a player plays troughout the 90 minutes of a match.

 

[ammarfcb]

At the end of the day, when two players are very good technically to the point where it is hard to differentiate the bette.

i don't think iniesta and zidane are even on the same technique level though. iniesta is better. zidane had amazing technique moments but iniesta's technique is just out of this world in every touch he takes.

 

[DinhoR10]

I am actually a big fan of both

Arguments are good if we can take something out of them. So not really a waste of time.

Well here's my piece. I have nothing against rating "Beautiful goals" as something to say whether a player is better or good or whatever. But its wrong to use it in this argument because iniesta is a better passer,assister and dribbler than zidane. He's won more trophies and is a major reason for why Barca 2008 - 2012 is considered one of if not the greatest team ever. Zidane is a better goal scorer and has scored a few goals that could be considered beautiful but not enough to put him over iniesta who beats him in every other aspect. And its not even to say iniesta is bad at goalscoring he can shoot just as well as zidane, he just scores less.

 

[1207]

i don't think iniesta and zidane are even on the same technique level though. iniesta is better. zidane had amazing technique moments but iniesta's technique is just out of this world in every touch he takes.

it's all about taste and being a fan.
who's the greatest off all time? Maradona, Zidane, Pele, Iniesta,... all players form different era's. Players from different era's can't be compared
the hungarians 1950 were a phantasic team, today they wouldn't make it into the group stage of the CL

 

[Ghost]

Iniesta in ghost-mode is better than Messi.

 

[abual3bed1]

Iniesta in ghost-mode is better than Messi.

:tata1:

 

[Superstar85]

Well here's my piece. I have nothing against rating "Beautiful goals" as something to say whether a player is better or good or whatever. But its wrong to use it in this argument because iniesta is a better passer,assister and dribbler than zidane. He's won more trophies and is a major reason for why Barca 2008 - 2012 is considered one of if not the greatest team ever. Zidane is a better goal scorer and has scored a few goals that could be considered beautiful but not enough to put him over iniesta who beats him in every other aspect. And its not even to say iniesta is bad at goalscoring he can shoot just as well as zidane, he just scores less.

The thing here though is that i don't consider Iniesta to be a better dribbler or passer than Zidane. We also have to consider other aspects like abilities to take freekicks and coner kicks.
Messi is the main reason why Barca 08-12 is considered one of the greatest teams ever cause he was more often than not the difference. Offcourse Iniesta was also an important factor but he wasn't more important than Xavi (who actually controlled the tempo & also had many assists), but he had more flair than Xavi.

 

[beautifulgame]

Iniesta in ghost-mode is better than Messi.

 

[DinhoR10]

The thing here though is that i don't consider Iniesta to be a better dribbler or passer than Zidane. We also have to consider other aspects like abilities to take freekicks and coner kicks.
Messi is the main reason why Barca 08-12 is considered one of the greatest teams ever cause he was more often than not the difference. Offcourse Iniesta was also an important factor but he wasn't more important than Xavi (who actually controlled the tempo & also had many assists), but he had more flair than Xavi.

Which is why I brought up the fact about opinions I've watched them both play and I consider Iniesta to be a better passer and dribbler. Iniesta has never taken free kicks/corner kicks because he's played with the likes of Ronaldinho (One of the best free kick takers of this century if not ever), Xavi and messi, and now Fabregas but I will concede that Zidane was better in that aspect.

Now about the 2008-2012 thing, the team would not be considered the best ever if not for iniesta not only because of his immense talent but because if it wasn't for his goal there would have been no sextuple, barca would've won at most 3 trophies that year. Messi didn't score it, Xavi didn't score it, Eto'o didnt score it. Zidane's goal from the cl final was brought up but iniesta's goal in the semi final was probably one of the most important goals ever scored in Barcelona's history, it heralded the coming of the greatest team of all time. So no I don't agree that Messi is the main reason, I believe the quartet of Messi,Iniesta,Xavi and Busquets is what made Barcelona the Best team ever, take out anyone of them and it can no longer be stated as such, look how abysmal we look with just Xavi's decline or when Busquets/Messi/Iniesta is having a bad day.

Now we can agree that Zidane is a more consistent goalscorer and better set piece taker but you don't agree on that Iniesta is a better assister, dribbler and passer than him, I've watched zidane play and he simply doesn't match up, even when you go highlight reel for highlight reel iniesta far outstrips him in this aspect.