Anthony Martial

Jair Ventura

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This just shows how you have no idea what you're talking about and your views are formed by comments that were thrown about last season and not by watching the player. Shaw is without a doubt worth the fee based on how he's performed this season and I'd pay 30 million again even with the benefit of hindsight..

I watch the EPL. shaw is solid defensively and average going forward. Average on the ball or in distribution, sub par vision, decent on the ball but not someone technically proficient enough to consistently beat his man 1v1. Good straight line pace but poor agility/changing direction, struggles with his crossing, great in the air. All in all, a decent but overhyped player such is the case with most English talents.

Dani Alves cost 30m. Shaw isn't that type of talent.
 

Jair Ventura

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Shaw (20), Alaba (23), Rodriguez (23), Kurzawa (22), Guerreiro (21, 22 in December). Shaw just turned 20, he's 2/3 behind development to those LB's and the only two I would say who are better then him are Alaba and Rodriguez.

Shaw will be up there with LB's like Alaba in the next 1/2 years. He's been fantastic this season.

Shaw is nowhere close to Alaba, let alone Rodriguez or Kurzawa. Guerreiro needs to do it for more than one season, but he's a prodigy going forward. On the other hand, there's nothing exceptional about Shaw. He's just English.
 

IamGundogan

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Shaw is nowhere close to Alaba, let alone Rodriguez or Kurzawa. Guerreiro needs to do it for more than one season, but he's a prodigy going forward. On the other hand, there's nothing exceptional about Shaw. He's just English.

His defending is very good, his pace is exceptional, there's nothing wrong with his passing or distribution. He does need to improve going forward and with his crossing, but he's just turned 20, out of his teenage years. You're quite clearly being critical because he's 'English'.
 

Yannik

Senior Member
The deal is for £36mil pounds which comes out at about €45mil euros. With the pound been a lot stronger then the euro at the moment

1 British pound = 1.37448413 Euros
36 million British pounds = 49.4814286 million Euros
 

serghei

Senior Member
Nowadays it seems as if there is no justification behind signing young players anymore, because practically they cost as much as ready-made players. The whole point of why young-players are smart investions goes completely missing.

Depends on the player. You have Neymar and James cases. Both expensive young players, but still good investments. Take a look at James. He cost around 80m. Now, he's worth more than that. Neymar is an even better example. If he were to leave, we could get almost double the sum we payed for him (salary aside).

You actually need to be able to estimate if a player is worth it or not. Neymar and James were worth it, but both were stars before they joined their clubs. Martial for example is not even close to the level of James before he signed for Madrid, and yet, Monaco is asking almost the same money for him. :lol:

The thing is City and PSG have ruined the market, especially City. They overpay with an ease that is mind-boggling. Like it doesn't even matter that they pay 80m for a 45m. worth of player.
 
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Yannik

Senior Member
Depends on the player. You have Neymar and James cases. Both expensive young players, but still good investments. Take a look at James. He cost around 80m. Now, he's worth more than that. Neymar is an even better example. If he were to leave, we could get almost double the sum we payed for him (salary aside).

You actually need to be able to estimate if a player is worth it or not. Neymar and James were worth it, but both were stars before they joined their clubs. Martial for example is not even close to the level of James before he signed for Madrid, and yet, Monaco is asking almost the same money for him. :lol:

You could argue that Neymar and James were that expensive, because they were absolutely amazing, even when we leave their age aside.
They were already better than most of the concurrence at older age. Martial in this case though, we say to him "He's really good for a 19year old."
 

Jair Ventura

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His defending is very good, his pace is exceptional, there's nothing wrong with his passing or distribution. He does need to improve going forward and with his crossing, but he's just turned 20, out of his teenage years. You're quite clearly being critical because he's 'English'.

Has has two assist in his entire career, can't cross, and offers practically nothing going forward but there's nothing wrong with his passing or distribution?

I'm being critical because he isn't very good.

Edit: add Gaya to that list.
 
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Jair Ventura

New member
Depends on the player. You have Neymar and James cases. Both expensive young players, but still good investments. Take a look at James. He cost around 80m. Now, he's worth more than that. Neymar is an even better example. If he were to leave, we could get almost double the sum we payed for him (salary aside).

You actually need to be able to estimate if a player is worth it or not. Neymar and James were worth it, but both were stars before they joined their clubs. Martial for example is not even close to the level of James before he signed for Madrid, and yet, Monaco is asking almost the same money for him. :lol:

The thing is City and PSG have ruined the market, especially City. They overpay with an ease that is mind-boggling. Like it doesn't even matter that they pay 80m for a 45m. worth of player.

Paris overspent for Luiz and Moura but no one beyond that. Real has more claim to inflation than PSG, while City is on another level.
 

Sterlingfan2000

Active member
French media is almost united that the fee for Anthony Martial is €80m overall, €60m straight, €15m in guaranteed incentives and €5m in performance related bonuses.
 

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