Antoine Griezmann

Raketa10

Senior Member
This sounds wonderful in THEORY but I doubt it will hold up in reality

It won’t. Not to mention 120 mil is way too much. Last year we wanted to pay 100 mil and now after he is one year older and had worse season 120 mil? Honestly WTF?

If this works out great but what is the chance for that after the last debacle with Cou? If we fire Valverde maybe there would be a chance but with him still here I don’t have faith in this at all. Arda 2.0 could happen.
 
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kollegah

Senior Member
I was going to go on a tangent about why I think Griezmann is the perfect fit for us but I found a thread on twitter that says pretty much everything I wanted to.

https://twitter.com/barca_natics/status/1127992412285079554

"I want to elaborate more on Mo’s point here. Specifically, I want to highlight what Griezmann can offer Barcelona, as I’ve seen many say he does not fit.

Firstly I want to talk about his defensive contributions. He was usually the man furtherest forward at the start of his Atleti tenure, but gradually he has been given a bigger responsibility defensively. https://vimeo.com/219098622

Griezmann has fresher legs than Suarez, at this point is better at pressing opposition defenders, & also tracks back should the opposition break Barça initial high-press. Messi would thus be the only inactive player defensively, & the furtherest man forward when defending.

Secondly, Griezmann is a better at progressing the ball than Suarez, especially in counter-attacking situations. When Barça win the ball back deep in their own half, Griezmann is capable of bringing the ball forward and finding runners, or combining with Messi.

Griezmann would offer a lot of versatility in counter-attacking situations as he is capable of making runs in behind as the true #9, play out wide to stretch the opposition, or drop deeper to initiate the counter himself.

In an organized attack, Griezman can operate as a shadow striker, inside forward, or a traditional number “9”. As this video shows, Griezmann is adept at all 3 roles. This versatility will add a lot to Barcelona’s attack. https://vimeo.com/219098423

With Messi playing centrally & Griezmann pushing the defense back, Barça can create numerical superiority centrally, giving Messi the space to create, dribble & shoot around the edge of the box. If a central defender steps out, a diagonal run by Griezmann will punish him.

Furthermore, should a wide defender be dragged into the middle of the pitch to help compensate Barça’s superiority in the middle, Dembele or Alba will be free on the wing, giving Barça a very balanced attacked.

Griezmann could also drop deeper and drag a defender with him, giving Messi space to make a small run into the box. With the midfield we will have next year, as well as Griezmann’s creativity, Messi should be able to get more chances in, and around, the box than he does now.

Finally Messi and/or Griezmann are capable of drifting wide to overload either flank to help break down the opposition through the sides, & the other occupying a striker position inside the box. Both are also extremely capable of switching play to wide player on the other flank.

More than anything Griezmann will add versatility to Barça’s attack. Perhaps his best position is similar to Messi’s, but both Messi and Griezmann’s true value comes in their versatility and intelligence. This is where Griezmann will help.

Having a fluid attacking system such as this will keep opposition defenders guessing, as both Messi and Griezmann will be able to play different roles throughout the season, and even within the same match. Griezmann will also compensate for a static Messi defensively."

reality:

-box will be empty
-messi will still drop deep in midfiel
-CF spot will not be occupied
-toothless passing around the box
-wait for messi to create something
 

jairzinho

Senior Member
If he is of any help it will be in the short term.

We should be thinking long term and building a solid team post Messi for the next 5 plus years.

We’ll have to cough up too much for a guy who turns 29 next year. In his 2nd season with us he will turn 30.
 

BarçaBarça

New member
If we get him + De Ligt it will be the best window in years..
Remember that Jovic could become a Belotti without anyone bring surprised. For Griezmann to be succesful here, it is much more of a sure bet. So much more sure that it is worth the 40M difference.
 

feggydinho

Senior Member
Please what's happening again, I think Lacazette would fit better, plus Lacazette is right footed so he can always play the lw. Griezmann occupies space like messi and can't really play as a 9 for barcelona.
 

Saladin

Active member
If we get him + De Ligt it will be the best window in years..
Remember that Jovic could become a Belotti without anyone bring surprised. For Griezmann to be succesful here, it is much more of a sure bet. So much more sure that it is worth the 40M difference.


De Ligt is a separate issue, we would be getting him regardless of the offensive investments. Jovic is a pure 9, whereas Griezmann is a second striker who likes to roam freely; his pace was never outstanding (better than Coutinho, sure, but no where near the pace of a Mbappé, Dembélé or Nicolas Pépé). We need a proper striker to bench Fatez not a non-positional player who is a high caliber player for sure, but this is most often the case when you built the entire play around him as is the case in Atletico and the french NT. That would not be the case here.

The one thing that Griezmann has working for him over the likes of Jovic is his technique and build-up-play as well as his composure on the ball. Not that it is out of this world, but he is certainly a strong teamplayer, able to better the players around him in the offense.
 

neo_wolf

Member
People forget this idiot laughed at us in a bad way last year, now he is coming here costing more despite playing worse.
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
So it's not a problem to buy 100+ mil player every year but when we have to sign a COMPETENT manager than we have a real issue with that?!?!
 

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