Arda Turan

[Kuchi]

Some how, this Arda thing was like a summer rain, out of nowhere, caused a fuss, gone just as fast, like it wasn't there in the 1st place.

The answer is no, FIFA wants this till January.

 

[George_Costanza]

The answer is no, FIFA wants this till January.

did FIFA rejected it officially? i didn't read anything unless you work for FIFA

 

[Kuchi]

No, but i wouldn't get my hopes up

 

[Barcafan 2304]

Are Fifa scheduled to give a response to this? Keep coming on and hoping something has happened

 

[klc123]

Then it is a vendetta

I'm finding it hard to deny this.
Man city obviously breach financial fair play rules, get a slap on the wrist with a minuscule fine (bribe).
We have a youth academy that produces players like messi and FIFA are out for blood.

Edit:
FIFA officially rejected it yesterday.

 

[Barcafan 2304]

I'm finding it hard to deny this.
Man city obviously breach financial fair play rules, get a slap on the wrist with a minuscule fine (bribe).
We have a youth academy that produces players like messi and FIFA are out for blood.

Yeah pretty much. Good old Fifa eh

 

[Icarium]

Fifa won't allow us to register arda, shouldnt expect anything else.

 

[Barcafan 2304]

Good old Fifa eh. Corrupt set of bitter bastards

 

[DennyCrane]

The rules clearly state we can make an emergency signing and the club had been notified that the ban was indeed over.

Weird circumstance that Rafinha got hurt for the whole year but legally Barca should be allowed to register Turan.

FIFA can't just keep on making up rules as they go along. I'm so fucking sick of FIFA and the corrupt Blatter regime.

The thing is: Art. 124 III of the RFEF Reglamento General, which is the legal basis here, is not in compliance with FIFA regulations, and never has been. The same by the way goes for the English Emergeny Loan system; but in contrast, the English operate on an explicit dispensation. And since domestic Association regulations don't override FIFA regulations, there is no legitimate legal basis to register the player.

The fact that FIFA just now actually decides to enforce their own rules is a political move obviously, but that fact alone doesn't make it unlawful. The reasoning the club came up with, the fact that other clubs operated on this rule in the past and FIFA never intervened, was against long odds from the get go, mostly because there is no such thing as equality in injustice.

 

[Flavia]

The thing is: Art. 124 III of the RFEF Reglamento General, which is the legal basis here, is not in compliance with FIFA regulations, and never has been. The same by the way goes for the English Emergeny Loan system; but in contrast, the English operate on an explicit dispensation. And since domestic Association regulations don't override FIFA regulations, there is no legitimate legal basis to register the player.

The fact that FIFA just now actually decides to enforce their own rules is a political move obviously, but that fact alone doesn't make it unlawful. The reasoning the club came up with, the fact that other clubs operated on this rule in the past and FIFA never intervened, was against long odds from the get go, mostly because there is no such thing as equality in injustice.

Which is the Fifa regulation that denies that? Is it something explicit?

 

[DennyCrane]

Which is the Fifa regulation that denies that? Is it something explicit?

Not really explicit, but there's Art. 6 of the RSTP:

6 Registration periods
1.
Players may only be registered during one of the two annual registration
periods fixed by the relevant association. As an exception to this rule, a
professional whose contract has expired prior to the end of a registration
period may be registered outside that registration period. Associations are
authorised to register such professionals provided due consideration is given to
the sporting integrity of the relevant competition. Where a contract has been
terminated with just cause, FIFA may take provisional measures in order to
avoid abuse, subject to article*22.
2.
The first registration period shall begin after the completion of the season and
shall normally end before the new season starts. This period may not exceed
12*weeks. The second registration period shall normally occur in the middle of
the season and may not exceed four weeks. The two registration periods for
the season shall be entered into TMS at least 12*months before they come into
force (cf.*Annexe*3, article*5.1 paragraph*1). FIFA shall determine the dates for
any association that fails to communicate them on time.
3.
Players may only be registered*– subject to the exception provided for in
article*6 paragraph*1*– upon submission of a valid application from the club to
the relevant association during a registration period.
4.
The provisions concerning registration periods do not apply to competitions
in which only amateurs participate. The relevant association shall specify
the periods when players may be registered for such competitions provided
that due consideration is given to the sporting integrity of the relevant
competition.

Source: http://resources.fifa.com/mm/docume...tusandtransferofplayersapril2015e_neutral.pdf


So there's actually no registration of players allowed other than within the two registration periods with the one exception in 6.1. There's also no enabling provision for domestic asociations to make exceptions from this rule.

And regarding that 6.1 includes a very specific exception from this rule already, one could make a valid argument that the makers of this rule intended that there shouldn't be any further exceptions. Imo, the legal situation is unambiguous in this case.

 

[Chong Li]

Different leagues have different transfer regulations. Just yesterday a swiss team signed a player from another swiss club and of course no one at FIFA cares.

Arda's registration will be denied, no doubt. But not because it's against FIFA's regulations, but because it's Barca.

Blatter is out to get us, no wonder since the old fuck is a Madrid honorary socio.

 

[Flavia]

Not really explicit, but there's Art. 6 of the RSTP:

6 Registration periods
1.
Players may only be registered during one of the two annual registration
periods fixed by the relevant association. As an exception to this rule, a
professional whose contract has expired prior to the end of a registration
period may be registered outside that registration period. Associations are
authorised to register such professionals provided due consideration is given to
the sporting integrity of the relevant competition. Where a contract has been
terminated with just cause, FIFA may take provisional measures in order to
avoid abuse, subject to article*22.
2.
The first registration period shall begin after the completion of the season and
shall normally end before the new season starts. This period may not exceed
12*weeks. The second registration period shall normally occur in the middle of
the season and may not exceed four weeks. The two registration periods for
the season shall be entered into TMS at least 12*months before they come into
force (cf.*Annexe*3, article*5.1 paragraph*1). FIFA shall determine the dates for
any association that fails to communicate them on time.
3.
Players may only be registered*– subject to the exception provided for in
article*6 paragraph*1*– upon submission of a valid application from the club to
the relevant association during a registration period.
4.
The provisions concerning registration periods do not apply to competitions
in which only amateurs participate. The relevant association shall specify
the periods when players may be registered for such competitions provided
that due consideration is given to the sporting integrity of the relevant
competition.

Source: http://resources.fifa.com/mm/docume...tusandtransferofplayersapril2015e_neutral.pdf


So there's actually no registration of players allowed other than within the two registration periods with the one exception in 6.1. There's also no enabling provision for domestic asociations to make exceptions from this rule.

And regarding that 6.1 includes a very specific exception from this rule already, one could make a valid argument that the makers of this rule intended that there shouldn't be any further exceptions. Imo, the legal situation is unambiguous in this case.

So, there isn't a rule prohibiting that. It is quite ambiguous, imo. I think there would need to be a rule saying no exceptions regarding injuries could happen. Normal registering if off the table, but situations like this, when a player gets injured for the season, are not appreciated there. I don't agree that this make the rfef rule void.

 

[El Flaco]

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[xXKonan]

According to the MD, Barca is preparing a statement on the case, FIFA and on the situation of Arda Turan.

I hope it's good news. But most likely would be bad news.