serghei
Senior Member
Lol. There's no official definition of an assist. It is not a concept defined by FIFA in Rules and Regulations.
Arthur
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Lol. There's no official definition of an assist. It is not a concept defined by FIFA in Rules and Regulations.
Arthur has good assist statistics this season. That makes it even more unfortunate that you feel need to fabricate the numbers to his benefit. I have been accused of twisting stats before, but this is simply another level of desperation.
A pass that leads to a scored penalty is NOT an assist. You would have a better argument if you tried stating the player that won a scored penalty should get an assist. Either way it does not matter what you think and you cannot use your own interpretation to alter objective statistics.
Be better mate.
behindbrowneyes
Well-known member
https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2019/09/27/5d8e49d6ca4741b9348b4585.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomsan...of-club-and-country-conflicts-for-brazilians/
Seems to be that the club isn't happy with some of his decisions. Partying with Neymar 48 hours before a game, travelling with the national team for some meaningless friendlies.
I can understand the anger about partying with Neymar. However, it didn't seem to be a problem back then since he played 90minutes against Getafe and Inter after the incident.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
Some serious lynching on Arthur by the stat guys.
Suspiciously, they haven't mentioned anything about assists since Arthur is leading with 5.
Last year they couldn't shut up about assists and how Arthur only had 1.
His stats till now reminds me of Dembele from last season.
Poor matches, scores a goal=stats looks awesome.
His play in the attacking 3rd is only slightly better than the last season and his game is still full of backpasses, ballhogging, slowing down the game, passing to a nearest teammate and bad passes in the attacking 3rd.
Masked by a good pass (assist) here and there.
Midfield is even more chaotic than the last season.
Midfield is MIA in almost every away game, which wasn't happening in the first 2 EV's seasons.
Our overall defending (where Frenkie and Arthur are helping a lot) is worse than ever in EV's 3 seasons.
His physique and stamina already reminds on the 2nd part of the last season.
I have said a few weeks ago, just wait until any player plays more and 10s of bugs and obvious flaws will surface.
I am glad that more users are lately posting some doubts about Arthur.
Because a hype, alibies and pushing a head into a sand regarding his flaws are reminding me on Dembele on this forum in his 1st two years.
1. Sport was attacking poor Dembele and inventing bad stories about him "for no reason"
2. Suarez was yelling at him for no reason
3. a lot of teammates said remarks about him
4. EV was dropping him or subbing him all the time
Yet people had alibies for everything. A team is not moving, he has no one to pass the ball to, Suarez is dumb, EV is dumb, Sport is inventing stories.
Arthur is a nice player to have in a team.
A guy with some good areas and a guy with some really poor areas.
But you guys are acting as if we are watching a reincarnation of Xavi, lol.
In this moment, he is by far the most overrated player by our fanbase.
Dembele was no1 in the last season.
Now, on larger samples, I don't think that a current Arthur's season is any better than the first season.
The only difference is that some stats (Assists and 2 goals) are now on his side.
At the end of the last season, he dropped to a 5th place in the pecking order (Busi, Raki, Vidal, Alena, Arthur).
EV tried a lot of new things at the beginning of this season, due to a pressure of fans and the board.
But if Arthur will continue to play as bad as he did in the last 5-6 matches, I wouldn't be surprised if he'll lose a starting 11 spot again even to grannies Vidal and a goner Raki.
In the first 2 EV's seasons, we played boring, sterile and static.
But except matches like Anfield and a few of big matches, we weren't outplayed by Mickey Mouse teams.
In the last 3 weeks, with Frenkie-Arthur midfield duo, we were heavily outplayed in midfield by mighty giants Slavia Prague, Eibar and Levante.
You guys will offer 100s of random excuses before you will finally point fingers to 2 new players in midfield who are also responsible for an extremely chaotic and all over the place midfield.
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serghei
Senior Member
Lol, BBZ all this time you used stats to justify good or bad matches from players. A common theme for you. Like literally tying a bad thing with a stat and nothing else. Now you're telling me a player can have bad games while having good numbers? Careful there, if you leave stats out and get into a discussion about tactics and such you're way out of your depth.
Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor
Banned
This is just comedy gold right here. Thanks Serghei my old chum, I haven't laughed as much at a post since Villarubi described Dembele as Annorexic Lukaku. Brilliant stuff.That was my first post in this thread in over a month.
I praised him for his performance against Osasuna and haven't posted anything negative about him since then. Lad obviously isn't perfect, but he is better than the other options we have right now and I am satisfied with his attacking contributions for the time being.
The only user still criticizing him regularly is BBZ. Don't lump me in with other users to further your narrative.
serghei
Senior Member
Really, don't you know statistics sites disagree about these things often? Some sites even have saved shots and goals scored from the rebound as an assist for the shooter.
That is why the numbers differ a bit depending on the site you use for referrence.
Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor
Banned
Officially Semedo had 2 assists this season, but that's incorrect because he was tackled for the penalty that Messi scored vs Levante.
So 3 assists it is
JohnN
Senior Member
It would be impossible to reach any conclusion by Valverde's decisions about squad lists. We must wait and see.
That game was not so bad from him and it wouldn't warrant "a cancer, a pure shit, dogshit, S E L L, give his minutes to Puig/Alena and guys who deserve them" reactions about any other player in my opinion. I can't speak for everyone here of course. I get the hype and the exaggeration and all but the simple fact is that he has shown a level at several instances this season, that is absolutely world class, which shows that his ceiling is pretty high. That is what all the fuss is about.
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