We can cite Arthur going to a party 3 times within a year and that's enough to call him a party animal lmao. Forget it man, there's a weird and unfortunately large section of football fans who intend on micromanaging every aspect of a footballers life because they expect them to live as monks..😒😒
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We can cite Arthur going to a party 3 times within a year and that's enough to call him a party animal lmao. Forget it man, there's a weird and unfortunately large section of football fans who intend on micromanaging every aspect of a footballers life because they expect them to live as monks..😒😒
Jadentheman
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They'll claim that Barcelona is a "family" team. But it's only that because the ages of most players are really old. If it was a younger team there would be a lot more bachelors.
BBZ8800
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Arthur's last 4 matches:
Slavia 2:1
Levante 1:3
Celta 4:1
Atletico 1:0
We conceded 5.
Does he suck also then?
About goals in the last matches: is it Raki's fault for ref awarding a soft pen for Sociedad and Mats eating a cheesecake with his gloves before a match so he had slippery hands on rebounds during a match?
Also, why are you even talking about Arthur?
Even when he IS here, a lot of his skills are questionable.
But a guy is not even here.
Out of 4500 minutes in La Liga and a CL last season, he played 2008 minutes.
Which is 44,6% of time.
This season, out of 1980 minutes, he played 919, which is 46,4% of time.
So, Barca played 50 La Liga and a CL matches last season and 22 matches this season.
That is 72 matches, not a small sample.
Over 72 matches and 18 Months, Arthur was on a field for around 45% of time.
So, maybe you guys should calm down with: Arthur should play, Arthur this, Arthur that.
Ok, when he will available, let him play.
The problem is: a guy is missing from this or that reason for half of a season/playing time in these 18 Months.
So, when you say: we should be giving playing time to Arthur... consider that on majority of times, he won't be in a team at all.
So, when Arthur is here, fine: you have your desired lineup.
But now, a realistic question: what is your lineup in 55% of time when Arthur is tired/injured/snowboarding etc?
You have Frenkie, and what then?
You still need 2 midfielders out of Rakitic, Busquets, Vidal and Alena.
3 midfielders need to start and at least 1 needs to enter in the 70th minute because Busi or Raki will be tired, especially if they will play 5 matches in a row, like in the last Month (due to Arthur not being here so those two have to play without a rest).
1. please, mate, if you want to have a serious discussion, don't ever again mention Roberto as a midfielder, in ANY context. Thanks.
2. about Suarez and Messi, imo, you are underestimating how bad are they in defending and in distance covered in general.
Look at stats from Barca: Slavia at Camp Nou:
https://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/ucl/2020/2027082_ts.pdf
Barcelona: 111 kilometers covered
Slavia: 125 kilometers covered
That means that their players ran 1,3 kilometers per player more than us over 90 minutes.
Dortmund:Barca:
https://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/ucl/2020/2027035_ts.pdf
107:104 for Dortmund.
Slavia:Barca away:
https://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/ucl/2020/2027058_ts.pdf
123:107 kilometers.
I mean, if Slavia can run 16 and 14 kms more than us in 2 matches, imagine what City or Liverpool will do.
And my point if that a lot of you are simplifying football and our problems.
For you: we played bad at Anfield or at XX because Rakitic couldn't ressist press.
Lol. Fine.
But even if you remove Raki and put Arthur/Alena, we will still have 10-15 kms less per match than Liverpool or City.
So, you will solve one problem (press resistance), but what with 10 other problems?
A team running less in general?
Messi and Suarez don't run or defend too much?
Messi being easily neutralized by big teams?
Our defense when you remove Raki and put Arthur/Alena... since, you know, those teams will again have the ball for a majority of time on their home ground due to them running like crazy.
Messi and Suarez don't run and defend and you have 2 options:
1. put a babysitter Rakitic to babysit for them, add some distance covered and some defensive balance. But who will struggle in build up against press.
2. or put Arthur/Alena to babysit for Messi/Suarez. They will run less than Rakitic. They will be weaker in defense, so we won't solve Messi/Suarez problems and we will probably face tons of shots. But, you will get more stability in build up.
So, now, choose one:
1. do you want a weaker build up, 15 kilometers less covered (with Rakitic)?
2. or a better build up, even less kilometers covered and probably horror-show level of defending?
Basically, I am asking you: in WHICH way do you want to lose?
It is extremely hard to win against crazy running teams with Messi, Suarez, Alba, Raki-Busi, Cbs prone to errors, Mats eating a cheesecake with gloves etc.
The only way is to avoid them in a draw, or rebuild a team, which means bye bye to Messi and all amigos.
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I agree 'escort' would be the more fitting term, but it's still doesn't change its sad to hire women for money to satisfy your desires. Just like to use your status and money to poach women. If you aren't connecting on a deeper emotional level, it will be all-fake. You aren't equals. You are buyer, and she is the seller. It will be most likely be a somewhat fake way to fulfill desires and get comfort. It will easily end up as a slippery slope. And if you start questioning what it is real and what is fake, its probably already chaos and to late. You will get out of touch with true emotional bond with women and your whole believe system to emotional bond, will be hugely affected negatively. Really, I consider it as a drug. If you try to find an emotional connection to a real person, and it gets complicated, the brain will remember the "easier" past, you will go buy another escort for a night, and slip further down the rope. Guys like Maradona, Ronaldinho and Ronaldo are prime examples of that. R10 had not that long ago to "wives", which were paid 'pocketmoney' to be in a relationship with him.
JohnN
Senior Member
I will start with the last point. If we are doomed to lose against marathon running teams then why on earth do our eyes need to suffer with raki and busi and Vidal. Put someone fresh and young and borderline talented so we can see some football at least.
About the Liverpool game, I sincerely, deeply believe that we would be cl winners if raki busi and Vidal hadn't started that game. I am 100% sure. That is why I blame EV and not them.
We shouldn't expect Barca running 120km even with our youngest squad. Put Messi and Suarez in there and the total distance goes down a lot. But apart from the slavia game, we aren't that far behind in actual distance covered when it matters. Running like headless chickens (a.k.a. Vidal) and reaching 15km per game means absolutely nothing for the team.
One more thing. Why should we not mention Bob as a midfielder at the same time raki is considered one. What does he do better?
BBZ8800
Senior Member
Lol.
One played 10 years as a starting midfielder in teams like Sevilla and Barca.
Won a Cl and Uefa cup as a starting midfielder (and captain at Sevilla), played WC final, ended 13th in a Ballon D Or race in 2018 iirc.
The most used Barca's footballer from 2014-2019.
The other one played a total of 20-30 matches as a midfielder for Barca.
Never played for more than two matches in a row.
Aged 27.
He will be a hybrid RB-RM until the end of his career.
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CatalinR10
Senior Member
he was talking about how come Rakitic is better in the present compared to useless Bob , not what he managed to do throughout his career.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
Rakitic can positionally hold his position.
Bob as a midfielder ventures into the attack.
Vidal is too wild positionally.
Frenkie also.
Roberto also.
Alena and Arthur are bad in defense.
The only two players who can hold their defensive positions and somewhat babysit for Messi and Suarez are Raki and Busi.
From other skills, let's say experience, chemistry with other players (as a midfielder).
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CatalinR10
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BBZ8800
Senior Member
Anyway, let's go back ontopic.
I have found that other Arthur's incident about which a commentator was talking once.
Arthur was apparently driving downhill through Barca's streets on an electric scooter.
But the bad thing is that he was recording videos with his mobile phone while driving and posting it on Instagram.
Using a mobile phone while driving is not allowed by the law.
And the worse thing is, he was putting himself in a dangerous situation (possible injuries due to driving and recording himself in the mirror at the same time):
Apparently, he was benched on some matches due to this.
In the next 2 weeks he added snowboarding with Neto and STDs, to make decisions easier for EV.
I have found that other Arthur's incident about which a commentator was talking once.
Arthur was apparently driving downhill through Barca's streets on an electric scooter.
But the bad thing is that he was recording videos with his mobile phone while driving and posting it on Instagram.
Using a mobile phone while driving is not allowed by the law.
And the worse thing is, he was putting himself in a dangerous situation (possible injuries due to driving and recording himself in the mirror at the same time):
Apparently, he was benched on some matches due to this.
In the next 2 weeks he added snowboarding with Neto and STDs, to make decisions easier for EV.
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serghei
Senior Member
Two things.
1) Arthur was subbed at 2-1 vs Levante.
2) It's not Raki's fault for Busi being an idiot (not so much ref awarding a soft pen for Sociedad) and Mats gifting Sociedad a goal (although he played a part in the goal too with his slow track of the Sociedad player run). But this doesn't stop you from using these sort of arguments (we received more goals when player X plays, so he must be bad defensively). It's amusing when you use the benefit of the doubt only regarding players you like, and completely toss that out of the window with players you don't like. This is why most of your arguments can be easily used against you. And this is exactly what is happening with the so called 'fewer goals conceded with Rakitic instead of Arthur', meant to show Rakitic is some sort of great defender. He's a crap defensive player anytime a team decides to put pressure on our midfield instead of drop back.
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JohnN
Senior Member
Anyway, let's go back ontopic.
I have found that other Arthur's incident about which a commentator was talking once.
Arthur was apparently driving downhill through Barca's streets on an electric scooter.
But the bad thing is that he was recording videos with his mobile phone while driving and posting it on Instagram.
Using a mobile phone while driving is not allowed by the law.
And the worse thing is, he was putting himself in a dangerous situation (possible injuries due to driving and recording himself in the mirror at the same time):
Apparently, he was benched on some matches due to this.
In the next 2 weeks he added snowboarding with Neto and STDs, to make decisions easier for EV.
I might be getting old or whatever, but why do these guys feel the urge to post everything on Instagram? They are reach as hell and still can't enjoy the moment without sharing it with total strangers..
And the taking pictures while driving a scooter might be illegal, but the problem is not it. It's stupid too.
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