Arthur

Andrew M

New member
Arthur should man up a little. It's not like he's moving to Lecce. It's Juventus, a similar club in stature with Barcelona. Just go there, and prove everyone he is a top player. Make a mockery of these fools.

These things happen. He should take example from the Salah, De Bruyne situations. Sometimes the club you're at decides you're not worth more chances and they trade you. Whether they were right or wrong depends on what you do next.

Setien's comments were mean and unnecessary. I'd like him to show these balls when speaking about the bad things Suarez brings as well, but he'll probably shut up and play him all the time like a schoolboy.

Yeah his mentality here doesn't look good. I think he's lucky to even get a chance at Juve. I think Napoli or Roma will suit his level more
 

LeeRomeno

Active member
Nothing against this deal. As long as strategy is to rely on experience and not focus on rebuilding, Pjanic is by far better player at the moment. So if board focuses on next season, this deal makes alot of sense. Every single time camera focuses on Arthur, he seems completely gassed out. Even if it's in first 10 minutes of game. He seems to have big issues with stamina and does not seem to have high professionalism in his mentality. Skillwise, he surely is talented, but does not seem like he is player who can fulfill his potential.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Yeah his mentality here doesn't look good. I think he's lucky to even get a chance at Juve. I think Napoli or Roma will suit his level more

Sure, Juve are basically Italian Barcelona in terms of status. So, he won't face lesser pressure there that's for sure. So, he surely needs to man up.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Yeah agree 100%. He looks similar to Xavi when he turns on the ball and passes but realistically that?s as far as it gets with Xavi comparisons.

Saw this comment on Juve forum:

?The Only thing i can say, he is the best option we could get to replace Pjanic. A healthy Arthur is a fantastic player and nearest thing to Xavi.?

They?re gonna have a big shock when they realise Arthur and Xavi are light years apart. Like I said previously I don?t see the need for a player like Arthur for Juve, I know Sarri likes that Jorginho type but whenever I?ve watched them they have no problems in possession at all, from what I?ve seen they have problems in midfield making that killer pass. Juve fans seem to complain about lack of service from midfield a lot and we know that?s something Arthur can?t do.

I had high hopes for Arthur, after some great games like against Spurs. But he?s definitely stagnated. Feel the system isn?t helping at all either, more or less no players have improved in the last couple of years. FDJ for example, unreal at Ajax, hasn?t shown anything near that here. On the topic of FDJ, midfields with him and Arthur in didn?t seem to work out.

Seems this deal is mostly financially motivated, to balance the books in the short term. Arthur?s mum originally said Arthur was happy in Barcelona and yesterday said ?Now they are blaming the player? so it looks like he?s been forced out more than anything. We?re also getting a player who?ll probably see out his big wages as he won?t have much resale value in 2/3 years. I?m hoping (let?s hope) that Pjanic performs at a high level for a couple of seasons, seen Juve fans saying the system was hurting him as Sarri was playing him so deep. Whenever I?ve watched him over last few years I?ve been impressed.

I also don't see a very good fit at Juve. And even if Sarri likes him, if they sack Sarri and bring someone like Allegri instead of him, Arthur is basically going to have to change his game.

Barca would've been the best for Arthur, but not this old slow version, where you have to play risky passes consistently in order to find a man, then apply pressure when the ball is lost because you are surrounded by old players who don't run. The movement in this team is too crap for a controlling, safety-first player like Arthur to make it.

You basically need box to box midfielders in this team.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
I also don't see a very good fit at Juve. And even if Sarri likes him, if they sack Sarri and bring someone like Allegri instead of him, Arthur is basically going to have to change his game.

Barca would've been the best for Arthur, but not this old slow version, where you have to play risky passes consistently in order to find a man, then apply pressure when the ball is lost because you are surrounded by old players who don't run. The movement in this team is too crap for a controlling, safety-first player like Arthur to make it.

You basically need box to box midfielders in this team.

The Barca under EV suited Arthur. The slow build up where he can hold onto ball a bit longer then make mostly simple pass.

He doesnt move ball quick enough for the way most want Barca to play and would not have fit in with those prime Barca midfielders.

Arthur is not some throw back to prime Barca midfield as Xavi/Iniesta lite. He is not close to being athlete those two and in particular Xavi was and is not as positive on the ball.

Juve should suit him more under Sarri than a midfield Barca are after. If he fails under Sarri and that style he does have much left to go at top, top level teams.

The argument not long ago was Arthur couldnt make the riskier passes as no options there now it is he shouldnt have to make them.
 
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Eshez

New member
Arthur doesn't even really take up the same positions as Xavi, he seems to prefer playing more like an 8 in a double pivot. Sometimes he's even getting in Busquets' way. Maybe that Jorginho role under Sarri will suit him better.
 
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khaled_a_d

Senior Member
The Barca under EV suited Arthur. The slow build up where he can hold onto ball a bit longer then make mostly simple pass.

Another area that Arthur worked better under EV this season was his vertical movement. He was allowed more to enter penalty area or move forwards early in the season. Which allowed him to have more offensive input.
I honestly thought from the start that this is Arthur best chance to succeed, he doesn't have that playmaking touch but he can be more of a goal scorer to make things work.

To some extent I think that is why FDJ looked like taking step back under Setien, he has less room for vertical movement now
 

FCMessi

Senior Member
Phil schone: Arthur and Puig both 91% passing success rate. what's the difference? <-- what a dumb shit

Ray Hudson: blah blah blah fking useless shit.

the simple facts: Arthur all side way and back passes, little or no dribbling ability, always going to left.

Puig plenty of forward and through passes, prolific dribbling, mad hustling defensively.
 

Tackle

Senior Member
Fabrizio Romano - Arthur and Miralem Pjanic will have both medicals tomorrow. Arthur will join Juventus, Pjanic will join Barca. Swap deal concluded, also 10M to Barcelona as part of the agreement - official soon. Here we go confirmed!
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Would be hilarious if Arthur decides to stay at the last minute and the board fail to balance the books with the 70m they need, which means the board members have to cover the loss from their own pockets.
 

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