Arthur

Joan

Joan

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Felipetonelo said:
It was really great. Thanks man :wave:

We're playing so beautiful in the last 2 seasons, high defensive line, pressing 90 minutes, playing with intensity with/without the ball, short and quick passes, even our defenders and gk try to keep possession, also we're not afraid to shoot and play long balls when necessary.

I wish this team never ends :p
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Yes, some nice football.

What do you think of Maicon? I see he played in Germany but don't know much about it. Why did he fail to make it here in Europe? How does he compare to Arthur?
 
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Felipetonelo

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Joan Laporta said:
Yes, some nice football.

What do you think of Maicon? I see he played in Germany but don't know much about it. Why did he fail to make it here in Europe? How does he compare to Arthur?
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I didn't know about that too. :lol: Well, he failed probably because of speed and defending. He defends well when your team is positioned to do that but he's slow to get back when you lose possession, that's why we're playing with a more defensive Arthur. I think he would suffer a lot considering that in Germany they play faster than here and you have to play more without the ball. But when we have the ball he's really really good.

Maicon and Arthur are very similar. Both are great at creating chances and they know what to do and when to do. Both have around 100 passes each game, Arthur has 97% success rate, Maicon 95%. Arthur is faster, dribbles more and is better when defending. When we play against teams that are faster than us Arthur is the man that you need to win the battle in midfield. If they're slower then you can choose Arthur or Maicon and you will be fine.

The biggest difference is that Maicon is a real leader in/out the field. He is our captain just like Barca had Puyol. Last year he had the chance to play one of our most difficult games in Libertadores, but he talked to our coach and told him to play Arthur because Arthur was developing very well and it would be a good test to a young guy. Some people were like "oh please, play our captain, Arthur is not that good yet", but it was the best decision because Arthur had an amazing game. In today's football you have to admire a guy who thinks about the team first and only look to himself after that.

Raketa10 said:
[MENTION=22654]Felipetonelo[/MENTION] what are the chances for him to be included in Brazil WC squad?
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Excellent question. No idea hahaha
In some interviews Tite says that Arthur is a world class player, a man who can change the course of the game. In others he says that Arthur is young and he doesn't want to put pressure on him because World Cup is a huge thing, etc...
Personally I think he will be in the squad. We have 2 spots left in the midfield and Tite says that 1 needs to be a creative mid, it's between he, Fred (Shaktar) and Hernanes (China).
 
Devils

Devils

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I can't stand that it is still not clear when he will arrive.

I think it's pointless to bring him in January because I wouldn't trust his fate coming in mid-season under EV. Will probably get Mina treatment.

Should bring him in the summer or wait until next summer imo.
 
Joan

Joan

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Felipetonelo said:
I didn't know about that too. :lol: Well, he failed probably because of speed and defending. He defends well when your team is positioned to do that but he's slow to get back when you lose possession, that's why we're playing with a more defensive Arthur. I think he would suffer a lot considering that in Germany they play faster than here and you have to play more without the ball. But when we have the ball he's really really good.

Maicon and Arthur are very similar. Both are great at creating chances and they know what to do and when to do. Both have around 100 passes each game, Arthur has 97% success rate, Maicon 95%. Arthur is faster, dribbles more and is better when defending. When we play against teams that are faster than us Arthur is the man that you need to win the battle in midfield. If they're slower then you can choose Arthur or Maicon and you will be fine.

The biggest difference is that Maicon is a real leader in/out the field. He is our captain just like Barca had Puyol. Last year he had the chance to play one of our most difficult games in Libertadores, but he talked to our coach and told him to play Arthur because Arthur was developing very well and it would be a good test to a young guy. Some people were like "oh please, play our captain, Arthur is not that good yet", but it was the best decision because Arthur had an amazing game. In today's football you have to admire a guy who thinks about the team first and only look to himself after that.
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:thumbsup:

There are not many Brazilians here that I know of so I'll probably bore you to death with questions.

I've seen some of Maicon's matches and he can play. But, seeing he didn't make it in Europe, I was worried for Arthur. You've seen more of them so I'll take your word for it.

I don't hype players that easily and can't say I have unrealistic expectations. Same goes for Arthur, but I strongly hope we'll win a lottery with him. We are in desperate need of a quality player for reasonable price.

Unrelated to the question, I think Fred is the better option. Did well vs. Roma, for instance.
 
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Felipetonelo

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Joan Laporta said:
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There are not many Brazilians here that I know of so I'll probably bore you to death with questions.

I've seen some of Maicon's matches and he can play. But, seeing he didn't make it in Europe, I was worried for Arthur. You've seen more of them so I'll take your word for it.

I don't hype players that easily and can't say I have unrealistic expectations. Same goes for Arthur, but I strongly hope we'll win a lottery with him. We are in desperate need of a quality player for reasonable price.

Unrelated to the question, I think Fred is the better option. Did well vs. Roma, for instance.
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Ask me anytime, it's ok ;)

The comparison is very good, but as I said, Arthur has some skills that Maicon doesn't. Add the fact that Arthur is only 21, while Maicon is living his best moments at almost 33. Arthur can develop a lot of his qualities and Maicon has probably reached the roof, that's why I think he can be successful in Europe.
 
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Felipetonelo

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khaled_a_d said:
[MENTION=22654]Felipetonelo[/MENTION] how was Rodrygo Goes? and how do you rate him?
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He had 1 or 2 good runs in first half, created a good oportunity, but in general his first touch was weird, had several misplaced passes and lost the ball easily. Second half he was almost invisible.

But to be fair Gremio completely dominated Santos, he didn't have the ball to show something.

I've watched him just 2 or 3 times in full games plus some highlights, it's hard to rate him based on that but we have to be careful with him. He is soooo young(17), he doesn't have consistency (I don't know if it's the right word) because he's able to do something amazing but his next move is like "this guy can't be a soccer player".
I would keep following him because right now he's a mistery, he can be the new Neymar or the new Gabigol.
 
xXKonan

xXKonan

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Valverde says the club has been following him for quite some time and his style can adapt and fit well with Barcelona.
 
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