Barca Transfers and Rumors

serghei

Senior Member
Can't really be a flop for 10m.

He can, because we invest a lot more in a player than just money. Maybe we sign him for 10m. and some other rival signs a player we've been following along with Mina, and that player turns out to be great. The club's opinion about Mina, and the popular opinion in South American medias is that he's this great talent that is ready to make it at Barcelona.
 
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MessiCam

Guest
Coutinho has been playing as a wide midfielder for Brazil. He's more of a midfielder than a winger imo. Wingers at Liverpool are Salah and Mane. Striker is Firmino. Coutinho plays behind them.

Maybe prime Ozil was a bit better than Coutinho, but as of now, it's not even close.
Coutinho has been alternating between LCM and LW. More recently he has played as a LW. Don’t know what’s happening but Mane hasn’t been playing much recently.
 

Neeraj

Senior Member
I feel like it's about time we got an exciting young attacking talent. It's been TOO long. All the other top clubs have found at least one in the last 4-5 years. Diamonds in the rough. Really, it's about time! (And no, I don't count a 25m Umtiti)
 

Jombi

New member
I feel like it's about time we got an exciting young attacking talent. It's been TOO long. All the other top clubs have found at least one in the last 4-5 years. Diamonds in the rough. Really, it's about time! (And no, I don't count a 25m Umtiti)

Umtiti for 25m is the best signing we've made in the past 10 years though. Lets hope we dont have to wait many years for a similar signing or else we are looking at a rapid decline considering the horrific state of La Masia.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Umtiti for 25m is the best signing we've made in the past 10 years though. Lets hope we dont have to wait many years for a similar signing or else we are looking at a rapid decline considering the horrific state of La Masia.

Just making things up.

In what way has Umtiti been better than Alves, Masch etc? Even Suarez or Neymar.

Umtiti been a great signing but for case of making a point are rating him ahead of club legends and players that have been best in world in their position over a sustained time.

Even TS, Alba, Villa etc could be said to be up there as signings.

La Masia is not in a 'horrific state' either. More rubbish just to try and make a point.
 
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SeloBarca

Senior Member
Umtiti was much cheaper than Neymar and Suarez.
Alves was a great signing aswell.
I think Umtiti is better as a CB than Mascherano already, much more awareness.

Anyhow.


Inter are reportedly pushing to sign Barcelona pair Gerard Deulofeu and Aleix Vidal in January.
Yes please

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JamDav1982

Senior Member
Umtiti was much cheaper than Neymar and Suarez.
Alves was a great signing aswell.
I think Umtiti is better as a CB than Mascherano already, much more awareness.

Anyhow.



Yes please



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The price is balanced up against what got from them and Neymar and Suarez helped win a treble as part of probably the best forward line ever.

Far too early to say Umititi is a better signing than any of them let alone Masch or Alves.

Masche has been the best CB at the club across his time and the heart beat of the team once Puyol was gone.

It isnt even close for now.
 

SeloBarca

Senior Member
Masche makes to many misstakes to be called the "heartbeat". Its very noticable hes really a DM.
For me he has always been a solution until we find something better, which i think we have done now.

Umtiti is pretty much what has kept us at the top of the table this season. Stegen, Umtiti and Messi.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Masche makes to many misstakes to be called the "heartbeat". Its very noticable hes really a DM.
For me he has always been a solution until we find something better, which i think we have done now.

Umtiti is pretty much what has kept us at the top of the table this season. Stegen, Umtiti and Messi.

Doesn't make many mistakes and been Barcas best CB and heartbeat of team in time here.

This idea that he was a stop gap that made mistakes I thought died years ago. Obviously not..

Umtiti has not kept Barca top and the cliche to give all credit to select few when suits doesn't add up.

Plenty of the players been great this season and as good as Umtiti been Barca have barely missed him.
 

SeloBarca

Senior Member
Doesn't make many mistakes and been Barcas best CB and heartbeat of team in time here.

This idea that he was a stop gap that made mistakes I thought died years ago. Obviously not..

Umtiti has not kept Barca top and the cliche to give all credit to select few when suits doesn't add up.

Plenty of the players been great this season and as good as Umtiti been Barca have barely missed him.

Ok, im done. Ill finally click that block button
 

Alik

Moderator
Doesn't make many mistakes and been Barcas best CB and heartbeat of team in time here.

This idea that he was a stop gap that made mistakes I thought died years ago. Obviously not..

Umtiti has not kept Barca top and the cliche to give all credit to select few when suits doesn't add up.

Plenty of the players been great this season and as good as Umtiti been Barca have barely missed him.

I thought so too. Very surprised to read that.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Cmon. Umtiti was/is our best defenseman. By far. He s been outstanding this season, our MVPs with Steigen and Messi. And Busquets.

He has been very good but to say these results are purely down to him, TS and Messi is complete bollocks and can see level of team even when he is not there.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
He can, because we invest a lot more in a player than just money. Maybe we sign him for 10m. and some other rival signs a player we've been following along with Mina, and that player turns out to be great.

Of course there is always a risk if you're looking from that standpoint but other great clubs will always buy talented players we were following and decided not to sign. We can't buy everyone. Sometimes those players will turn out great and people will go crazy why we didn't sign this or that player but even more often those players won't met high expectations in bigger clubs.

We still have to take a risk with Mina because there are not many (if any) other option available at that price. We could instead pay 50M for De Ligt who is younger and has higher ceilling than Mina but there is also no guarantee that he would be a success for us. Every transfer is a gamble because you never know how player will do in his new club even if he's a great talent and/or has played good in his previous club(s). If you are buying younger players (age 18-22) that risk is usually even higher because you still have to develop them and that's not always possible because you can't guarantee them enough playing time. Players aged 24 (like Mina will be next year) and older are usually already closer to their full potential and don't need that much regular playing time to develop. Of course I expect Mina will improve here just because he'll train and play with better players and work under better coaches he had so far (at least I assume that because I don't know how good his current coaches are). But his longterm potential won't be impacted as much as it could happen with younger players if he won't play regularly.

The club's opinion about Mina, and the popular opinion in South American medias is that he's this great talent that is ready to make it at Barcelona.

True and that's why we'll buy him. Most people base their expectations on players transfer price and 10M is nothing in todays market. I will be happy if Mina will become at least a solid rotational player, if he can be a starter and possible Pique's replacement one day even better. I'll only call him a flop if he'll turn out to be next Douglas which I don't expect. Everyone laughed at us when we bought Douglas and as you said Mina is highly rated among almost all football people in South America and what's probably even more important, other European clubs with good scouts like Dortmund also want to pay twice as much for him than we'll pay. It's still possible that he'll fail but for his price it's worth the risk even if we won't buy another "can't miss talent" (that would cost us much more) because of him.

Anyway, we'll most likely buy another CB in summer so we can still go after De Ligt or whoever is the next on our CB target list (that depends on many factors) so we can't really say we'll miss out on someone because of Mina.
 

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