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JamDav1982

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Owen failed which is pretty much one of the big names. Average players like Woodgate of course failed. But McMannaman did well, and so did Bale overall. Trippier did well at Atletico too I think.

But yea, British players usually don't come to play in Spain. One of the perks of having many strong teams in their own country and one of the best leagues.

Owen didnt fail. He did well at Real.

He went to Real for around 8m and scored 16 goals which is a good return for a striker not on pens or a regular starter.

13 goals in 20 La Liga starts.

Brazilian Ronaldo was the starting 9 at that point.

Scored v Barca etc and left with them more doubling their money.

Good signing who did well and moved on as wanted back to England.
 

malvolio

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Which Brits didn't succeed in Spain? Think it's more the rarity that gives the impression of British players struggling there.

Would think the success rate is fairly high tbh, unless I'm missing someone.

That's why I've asked the question. Very small sample size to judge from.

And success rate? Quite underwhelming when judging the transfers in the modern era(let's say after 2000).

https://talksport.com/football/5748...ham-kieran-trippier-transfer-atletico-madrid/

This supposition that they would be world beaters in La Liga is not backed by anything really.
 
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JamDav1982

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Gary Lineker had one good season but then Cruyff took over and stuck Lineker on the wing ... did not last long after that

Lineker did very well when played in position they signed him in and got hat trick v Real etc.

Cant claim he failed when asked to play on wing and out of position.
 

serghei

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I forgot about Beckham of all players. :lol: He did ok, a bit underwhelming for me.

Yea, mixed bag overall. But not much sample size.
 

JamDav1982

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Nah the success rate has been high in recent years when decent British players have gone to Spain when seen as a step up to one of top clubs.

Latest being Trippier who is bang average bar his delivery and was best in league.

Before him it was Bale who banged in the goals and was a success.

Owen did well, Beckham did well overall and was huge part in last title win when back in team. Despite Galacticos being failed idea overall.

McManaman was huge success. He scored and was MOTM in one of the two CLs he won there.
 
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Zidane82

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Owen didnt fail. He did well at Real.

He went to Real for around 8m and scored 16 goals which is a good return for a striker not on pens or a regular starter.

13 goals in 20 La Liga starts.

Brazilian Ronaldo was the starting 9 at that point.

Scored v Barca etc and left with them more doubling their money.

Good signing who did well and moved on as wanted back to England.

During his one season at Real Madrid, Owen scored 16 goals from 45 games, 26 of which were starts.
 

Zidane82

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Yea, mixed bag overall. But not much sample size.[/QUOTE]

Good point .. not enough have made the switch to really make a fair judgement
 

JamDav1982

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During his one season at Real Madrid, Owen scored 16 goals from 45 games, 26 of which were starts.

Yes he did well as I said.

Scoring 16 goals when in and out of team as Ronaldo the 9 is good return.

13 goals in 20 starts in La Liga is doing well. Far from a failure.

He did well. Scored v Barca. They wanted him to stay but he wanted away.
 

jamrock

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It's a mix bag, I wouldn't call becks a success, he was maybe a 5.5-6/10, ended well for him but overall he was a average.

Bale was by far the best.
Tripper did well.

Robertson cost Liverpool the CL, gotta take a few points away from him, guy was in midfield tracking modric & left a ocean of space behind him for valverde do use, but he's class.

We've been hearing how great English players are for the past 100 years & they can't put in together when it matters most.

Also English teams have won, 2 CL in the past 10 years, that's 1 more than a horrible Barcelona just to put that into prospective, so their great technical & physical advantage doesn't show on the biggiest stage internationally or at the club level when it matters most.
 

JamDav1982

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Well I trust Cruyffs judgment tbh .. he moved him out of position for a reason

Cruyffs judgement that Lineker can play on wing?

Aye that went well.

Fact is Lineker did well when in his main position.

If Cruyff comes in after that and prefers a different type of players that fact remains.
 

Zidane82

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TalkSport had a Spanish guy on saying that Chelsea officials were in Barca to negotiate .
FDJ in a 60 million plus Alonso and Azpilicueta deal ..

Sounds feasible..
 

JamDav1982

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It's a mix bag, I wouldn't call becks a success, he was maybe a 5.5-6/10, ended well for him but overall he was a average.

Bale was by far the best.
Tripper did well.

Robertson cost Liverpool the CL, gotta take a few points away from him, guy was in midfield tracking modric & left a ocean of space behind him for valverde do use, but he's class.

We've been hearing how great English players are for the past 100 years & they can't put in together when it matters most.

Also English teams have won, 2 CL in the past 10 years, that's 1 more than a horrible Barcelona just to put that into prospective, so their great technical & physical advantage doesn't show on the biggiest stage internationally or at the club level when it matters most.

English teams have won two of the last four CLs and had two all English finals and five different finalists.

Not quite failure being made out and no one is claiming they were the top sides even 5 years ago when Real were winning it.

They will be fine and go far/win it more than any country in coming years.

The English national team also gone further than Spanish in last two tournaments and a WC semi and a final is not some huge failure either.
 

JamDav1982

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TalkSport had a Spanish guy on saying that Chelsea officials were in Barca to negotiate .
FDJ in a 60 million plus Alonso and Azpilicueta deal ..

Sounds feasible..

Spanish media just guessing.

They have no idea.

Barca wont pay 20/25m for Azpi and Alonso if the rumoured fee they want of 85m is true.
 
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