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LordLichtenstein

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Why exactly do we need a CM?

Isn't Rakitić, Iniesta, Roberto, Rafinha & Arda enough?

If anything, we need to buy a new foward, Sandro and Munir is simply not good enough.
 

Ghostmaster

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Why exactly do we need a CM?

Isn't Rakitić, Iniesta, Roberto, Rafinha & Arda enough?

If anything, we need to buy a new foward, Sandro and Munir is simply not good enough.

Well it depends on weather or not Iniesta will decline sharply this season and how Roberto continue to develop and most importantly - will he play as CM or shifted back to RB position when Arda joins us in January.
 

Galning

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Everybody's always taking the piss out off Raiola but he's great at his job. Always gets amazing deals on all levels. Everybody knows somebody is going to overpay for Pogba, it's just a question of which club.
 

raskolnikov

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Raiola's whole strategy is to completely hype and overrate his players. He screwed over a lot of young players to serie A clubs ruining their potential just to get his comission.
Pogba is one of those exceptions that turned out fine then he overrates him on hype.
He is extremely annoying for clubs and fans but if you are a talented player he is a relatively good choice.
He reminds me of that gu from entourage.
 

anguy

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Why exactly do we need a CM?

Isn't Rakitić, Iniesta, Roberto, Rafinha & Arda enough?

If anything, we need to buy a new foward, Sandro and Munir is simply not good enough.

No. We don't have a CM that can reliably control game. Iniesta, Turan and Rafinha are AMs. Roberto is still unproven, Rakitic plays the position but makes too many mistakes whe distributing the ball. Forward is necessary too, but we still can use Rafinha, Halilovic or Turan on wings with much better effect than Munir and Sandro. IMO the priorities are still the same as at the beginning of season - world class CM, backup forward, backup LB, young but proven CB, in that order.
 

PhilS

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Reliably controlling the game ended when Xavi left, and it will never come back. This new Barca attacks more, takes more offensive risks. This will cost some games, and also win other games.

I don't think Barca can buy any midfielder better for this club than Sergi Roberto. Like most Barca players, he can play more than one position: I think he is quite viable at AM, CM, DM and RFB. I like the group of Rakitić, Iniesta, Roberto, Rafinha & Arda to cover just two midfield positions for the next few years. The real "problem" with these picks is that you really need to play more than two of them at a time. Will we see Arda at forward?
 

khaled_a_d

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No. We don't have a CM that can reliably control game. Iniesta, Turan and Rafinha are AMs. Roberto is still unproven, Rakitic plays the position but makes too many mistakes whe distributing the ball. Forward is necessary too, but we still can use Rafinha, Halilovic or Turan on wings with much better effect than Munir and Sandro. IMO the priorities are still the same as at the beginning of season - world class CM, backup forward, backup LB, young but proven CB, in that order.

Do we need one ? Xavi left and Lucho asked for Arda to replace him .
For me that tells us what many already said ,the duo in front of Busquets are more of RCM/LCM than AM/CM
It has been this way even b4 Xavi left ,he was just needed to control the game more as a sub but that's it .would guess Iniesta will be able to do so when he move to the bench one day
Halilovic and Arda both midfielders than wingers .they can be used there but they would need playing time in midfield too .nevermind top priority January signing will be an attacker .whether a veteran true 9 or a winger like Nolito
Rakitic/Iniesta/Arda/Rafinha/Roberto are 5 players who plays in those 2 positions .that is just too much
And while we use the extra depth and versatility of those players in other positions ,Like Roberto as DM/RB ,or Arda& Rafinha on the wings .but it seem more logical to actually get a true attacker than just bring more option in midfield
Unless we are planning to sell someone ,signing a new CM is just crowding of what is already very deep positions .
I still believe our biggest signing in summer will be for CB ,Youth is pretty much needed there and it seem there might be departures
 

Topolino

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I honestly think that Xavis successor must come from within. No point in buying someone to "control the game" and brand him Xavis successor. Be it Samper or whoever, it would be in the best insterest of the club and Catalonia as well.
 

serghei

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Everybody's always taking the piss out off Raiola but he's great at his job. Always gets amazing deals on all levels. Everybody knows somebody is going to overpay for Pogba, it's just a question of which club.

Nobody can say otherwise tbf, but there is another very important component in the life of a player besides money. How people/fans perceive you after you retire, and what have you done in football. Take Thiago Silva. Ability-wise, could have had a Maldini-like career. Instead, he chose money and he will remain in people's memory as a player who won little compared with his talent/ability. An under-achiever as they say. Not because he didn't have what it takes, but because he didn't want more.

So, if you want money first, then, sure, be happy you have Raiola as your agent, because he is one of the guys who will get the cash flowing for you. But if you want to be remembered as one of the greats, you need to think better and to realise that insane money and ultimate glory is very rarely happening, because the clubs who are willing to overspend in such a high degree are usually the artificially inflated one. Raiola won't get him both money and prestige/glory imho. It's either prestigious clubs, like Barca and Madrid, for less cash or loads of money, via City and PSG. Again, if he wants money first, he can go to City and PSG and be happy with his decision.
 
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Topolino

Gemusesuppe
Verratti/Gündogan, Nolito/Tello/Success/Brahimi/Mahrez/Pedro/Aubameyang/Lacazette/Yarmolenko/Berardi/Konoplyanka, R. Rodriguez/Gaya/Bernat/N Monreal, Laporte/Gimenez/Gabriel/Musacchio/Marquinhos/Mustafi/Abdennour/Manolas/Dragovic

If we're talking about the CM, FW, LB, CB.
 

khaled_a_d

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Nobody can say otherwise tbf, but there another component in the life of a player besides money. Take Thiago Silva. Ability-wise, could have had a Maldini-like career. Instead, he chose money and he will remain in people's memory as a player who won little compared with his talent/ability.

So, if you want money first, then, sure, be happy you have Raiola as your agent, because he is one of the guys who will get the cash flowing for you. But if you want to be remembered as one of the greats, you need to think better and to realise that insane money and ultimate glory is very rarely happening. Raiola won't get him both things in my mind.

How many players of each generation remembered as all-time greats? very few tbh and it is a risk very few willing to take to leave money on the table for it
And Raiola had represented many loyal players like Hamsik and Nedved btw . he do what his clients want at the end
 
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