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Trickykid

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What the... :lol:
He has, what, 2 and a half season or so under his belt? You can't possibly use that "argument", if you go by the premise that his entire last season was mediocre.

Anyhow, I'm on the fence about him. He's no doubt hugely talented, but he's also been erratic, which, admittedly, is most likely down to him being very young still. He'd be a huge, ridiculously expensive gamble that could pay off in dividends, but a gamble nonetheless.
 

BBZ8800

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Oh shoot, I wonder why I totally forgot that option.. Well, you're right :) :cheers:


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#1 - Neymar-Suárez-Messi

(Neymar injured)

#2 - Arda-Suárez-Messi

(Suárez injured)

#3 - Neymar-Messi-Rafinha or Arda-Neymar-Messi

(Messi injured)

#4 - Neymar-Suárez-Rafinha

(Neymar & Suárez injured)

#5 - Arda-Messi-Rafinha

(Neymar & Messi injured)

#6 - Arda-Suárez-Rafinha

(Suárez & Messi injured)

#7 - Arda-Neymar-Rafinha

(Neymar, Suárez & Messi injured)

#8 - Arda-?????-Rafinha

It is here our problem begins. Anyone we buy automatically becomes 4rd choice, after Suárez, Neymar and Messi. Which is why, that certain someone has to be able to play at least one other position.

Should Rafinha get an injury, Vidal can take over, but if Arda gets injured, we have no one. :/

Imo, we have won majority of our CL titles in the last 10 years because of our world-class attackers and because of midfielders.

Now, in each CL title, we had world class attacking trios.
We are yet to win a CK a trophy in a season when we are struck with injuries and when we have to play with reserve options.

So, imo, if you or anyone want to play guys like Munir, Sandro, Arda, Vidal, Rafinha in CL semis and similar, it won't work well.
If we are Barca and we are aiming for a CL trophy, then ANY option like Nolito, Van Persie or any XX player who is a natural and proven forward is a better option than Rafinha, Munir, Sandro and similar.

We are thin in attack and we need to buy someone there.
That's it.

People are talking about Coutinho, while we already have 4 AMC's, while they would play with Rafinha or Munir in attack against Bayern or Real.

Anyway, dear board and Lucho, please buy ANY player who is a natural forward and who scored at least 50-100 scored goals from a forward position in his career.
We really don't need experiments in attack, and imo, 90% likely we won't win a CL with experimental attacking trios.
 

LordLichtenstein

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Imo, we have won majority of our CL titles in the last 10 years because of our world-class attackers and because of midfielders.

Now, in each CL title, we had world class attacking trios.
We are yet to win a CK a trophy in a season when we are struck with injuries and when we have to play with reserve options.

So, imo, if you or anyone want to play guys like Munir, Sandro, Arda, Vidal, Rafinha in CL semis and similar, it won't work well.
If we are Barca and we are aiming for a CL trophy, then ANY option like Nolito, Van Persie or any XX player who is a natural and proven forward is a better option than Rafinha, Munir, Sandro and similar.

We are thin in attack and we need to buy someone there.
That's it.

People are talking about Coutinho, while we already have 4 AMC's, while they would play with Rafinha or Munir in attack against Bayern or Real.

Anyway, dear board and Lucho, please buy ANY player who is a natural forward and who scored at least 50-100 scored goals from a forward position in his career.
We really don't need experiments in attack, and imo, 90% likely we won't win a CL with experimental attacking trios.
Good luck to that certain someone, because he will never get to play as a center foward as long as Suárez, Messi and maybe Neymar are fit.
 

FC B

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Barca still needs a good attacker as a reserve. Can't have all year long MSN available and playing every single match.
 

LordLichtenstein

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Barca still needs a good attacker as a reserve. Can't have all year long MSN available and playing every single match.
Attacker? A center foward you mean?

CF: Suárez > Messi > Neymar
LW: Neymar > Arda > ?
RW: Messi > Rafinha > ?

The last thing we need is a CF, because as long as either Suárez, Messi or Neymar are fit, he won't play. If anything, we need someone who can play both LW and RW ... We should never have let Pedro go, he was perfect.
 

raki

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Attacker? A center foward you mean?

CF: Suárez > Messi > Neymar
LW: Neymar > Arda > ?
RW: Messi > Rafinha > ?

The last thing we need is a CF, because as long as either Suárez, Messi or Neymar are fit, he won't play. If anything, we need someone who can play both LW and RW.

Reus :p
 

serghei

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Anyway, dear board and Lucho, please buy ANY player who is a natural forward and who scored at least 50-100 scored goals from a forward position in his career.
We really don't need experiments in attack, and imo, 90% likely we won't win a CL with experimental attacking trios.

Agreed. If we are in for Van Persie, we are in because he is a striker who can play a game on short notice, at this stage of his career. You don't need to build his confidence like you would do with an unexperienced forward. He has experience at playing important matches and as a result of that, he doesn't get intimidated. Experience never goes away, and players like RVP don't need the time to get used to playing at a high-level, because he's done it plenty of times in his career already.

It's the exact reason why Larsson was bought. He was considered finished, but he showed that a top footballer can still decide games without being as consistent as in his better days. So, for me we need to buy a player like RVP, who will understand that he will have a limited role, but who will also be able to step in on short notice and get the job done.

If Suarez gets injured we are exposed. Messi at CF doesn't work anymore. He himself said he needs a no9. Van Persie would be exactly the player who could step in for Suarez. We don't have that now.

Buy 1 CF, 1 CB and 1 CM. And a LB if possible. And make sure the CM has a high passing ability and can also provide defensive work. Someone that does tackiling, passes great, and runs a lot. Verratti would really be ideal in our current setup. He is the only one that thicks all the boxes.
 
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BBZ8800

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Attacker? A center foward you mean?

We need an attacker:
1. who can play both in center and on at least one wing
2. who is experienced and who has actually scored some goals in his career (we don't need another prospect who will or will not turn into something in 1-2-10 years)
3. who is willing to sit on the bench

Older players are usually both experienced, proven and willing to take the bench role.
Unlike younger guys who are either not proven yet or not willing to take the bench role. (Or often, both of those two.)
 

LordLichtenstein

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We need an attacker:
1. who can play both in center and on at least one wing
2. who is experienced and who has actually scored some goals in his career (we don't need another prospect who will or will not turn into something in 1-2-10 years)
3. who is willing to sit on the bench

Older players are usually both experienced, proven and willing to take the bench role.
Unlike younger guys who are either not proven yet or not willing to take the bench role. (Or often, both of those two.)
1. But that's the thing, I don't think we need an attacker, because we are better served with Messi taking over for Suárez and Neymar for Messi, if that should be the case. 2. Then why not go after a player like Ribery or Robben? both only have 1 year left with Bayern. They would offer experience?
 

serghei

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1. But that's the thing, I don't think we need an attacker, because we are better served with Messi taking over for Suárez and Neymar for Messi, if that should be the case. 2. Then why not go after a player like Ribery or Robben? both only have 1 year left with Bayern. They would offer experience?

Actually, Tata Martino tried Messi as a no9. It didn't work. Messi can't play clasic 9. He is a winger when the game flows in our way, and an AM when the midfield has troubles finding a way forward. Winger-AM is his position. Almost every goal he scores this days is with him starting from those areas.

Neymar - Van Persie - Messi would work better in a high stakes game than Neymar - Messi - Rafinha. In the first trio you have every player occupying his absolute best position. In the 2nd you have two players out of position. Rafinha lacks end product (goals mostly), and Messi lacks the phyisical presence of a no9 that can wrestle with 2CBs at the same time.
 
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ManusXavi

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We need an attacker:
1. who can play both in center and on at least one wing
2. who is experienced and who has actually scored some goals in his career (we don't need another prospect who will or will not turn into something in 1-2-10 years)
3. who is willing to sit on the bench

Older players are usually both experienced, proven and willing to take the bench role.
Unlike younger guys who are either not proven yet or not willing to take the bench role. (Or often, both of those two.)

What about Carlos Tevez?
 
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