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Kovacic might joined us as well if not for transfer ban or they both are just hardcore madridistas and joined them no matter what who knows.
Seriously though, RM might be looking for CB this summer, Pepe is not getting younger and is injured a lot and Nacho doesn't look that good, I won't be surprised if they go after Laporte as well.
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Mustafi also makes sense for the same reason.
Barcilliant
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That is bullshit.
If we sucked so bad we wouldn't have won the league and Cl with Rijkaard. Most of that squad were not Masia players. They were signed. Off late our signings have been hit and miss but that's the case with most clubs.
Where we are poor is in pricing. Either buy too high or sell too low.
We had some good years on transfers under Frank after years of shocking waste. The game changer was Ronaldinho, but Laporta actually wanted Beckham.
Even during the height of our success under Pep we were doing some of our worst ever deals buying Ibra and Chigrinsky for stupid money, or going all out for Cesc who disrupted the team rhythm the same as Ibra.
We've stayed at the top recently due to buying world stars in Neymar and Suarez and having Messi, Busquets and Iniesta that have come through the youth (and pique and Alba that have come back cheap).. It's going to get harder to finance buying players like Suarez and Neymar.
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Messi983
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Don't really agree with that. Looking at all transfers from 2010 I think we only overpay when buying from Arsenal simply because we didn't need players we bought from them (Song and Vermaelen). We didn't need Cesc as well but at least we recuperate all money we paid for him. The same for Alexis. I just hope we'll never buy from Arsenal again.
Bravo, ter Stegen, Rakitic, Vidal and even Mathieu were all bought for solid price over the last two years. Also don't forget Denis Suarez and Halilovic. Yes, we paid big money for Neymar and Suarez but both were worth it. Maybe Arda was a bit overpaid but I still think he'll turn out very good for us over the next 2 or 3 years. Looking even more back both Alba and Mascherano were also great transfers and Adriano was a solid player for some years.
I agree we should get something more when selling players though.
The Matheiu and Vermalen money should have gone on one younger CB. We'll lose both of those for pretty much nothing and then have to spend that money again on the type of player we should have bought two years ago. Not to mention the shambles of buying Song. The club just can't afford those kind of strategic mistakes.
The Turan money should have gone on a younger midfielder. We should only be buying late 20s players if they're at Suarez's level because we've already got too many players at that age group. The club need to be smarter.
The club have made such a mess of replacing Puyol in terms of transfers that it doesn't bode well for when other key players leave. Luckily Masch has proved to be a beast but it's taken a while for him to have to learn a new position.
The Turan money should have gone on a younger midfielder. We should only be buying late 20s players if they're at Suarez's level because we've already got too many players at that age group. The club need to be smarter.
The club have made such a mess of replacing Puyol in terms of transfers that it doesn't bode well for when other key players leave. Luckily Masch has proved to be a beast but it's taken a while for him to have to learn a new position.
Messi983
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Some of you are really too obssesed with players ages. You are either good or not, age doesn't matter that much.
Mathieu has proved to be a good transfer. Not great, but still we'll get 3 or 4 good years out of him. 17M is also not a lot in todays football market.
Vermaelen's signing was unnecessary, especially given his injury history and our bad past experiences when buying players from Arsenal.
Arda will be good and we have some younger midfielders already waiting for their chances.
Mathieu has proved to be a good transfer. Not great, but still we'll get 3 or 4 good years out of him. 17M is also not a lot in todays football market.
Vermaelen's signing was unnecessary, especially given his injury history and our bad past experiences when buying players from Arsenal.
Arda will be good and we have some younger midfielders already waiting for their chances.
Mathieu was a crazy price at the time, no question about that. We made a 31 year old who no top team wanted one of the most expensive defenders of all time. It's mostly oil clubs who have the luxury of buying players with no sell-on value. All players are investments and the older they are, the less value we get.
We are not in the position of spoiled oil clubs and we need to adapt. I think our management is waking up to this fact. Its scary to think that we only have 60m euros to spend this summer according to reports. Pogba is likely to cost €200m so people need to wake up. Replacing Messi and Suarez is likely to cost close to €1 billion in a few years.
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raskolnikov
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We should have bought Matthieu a year earlier before he signed a new contract and was available for like 8 mil.
That was another bullshit Zubi decision.
That was another bullshit Zubi decision.
JamDav1982
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Paying around 17m for Mathieu was not a crazy price really and he played a big part in the team last season.
Lucho clearly wanted more experienced options at the back and that comes with getting players who have less sell on value.
But in terms of value lost on a player for what they have given Mathieu is nowhere close to being one of worst for that. Younger players have been bought and more lost. Mathieu contributed.
JamDav1982
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The summer before he had been a CB for a few months and probably not requested by the manager at that point.
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