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Jamie Cal

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Wouldn't be surprised if Arda was gone at the end of next season. With Denis Suarez coming back, the minutes will be scattered between a looooot of midfielders. Doubt a guy of his age will hang around, and honestly, I don't know that I want him too.

Also, yeah, I wish we got Nolito. :(
 

Kohe321

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It does seem more and more likely that Arda will be sold this summer, but let's see. He needs to start showing something that makes him important in games, where he can offer something that is special and unique to him. So far he's been walking the line between being poor and just okay-ish, without many signs of anything special that can be improved upon that will suit our style of play, like he did in Atletico.

Given his age, price and status that needs to happen soon, but it's starting to look as if there might be a clash of styles going on. I haven't given up on him yet, but if he doesn't improve soon his signing could turn out to be a mistake.
 
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Devils

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I don't think it would be a bad thing for Arda to be sold in the summer. We rely need an injection of youth in our midfield and hopefully it will come from Roberto, Rafinha and Suarez. And we will have Busi, Iniesta and Raki as well which makes for good balance.

The issue with Arda is that he doesn't look like he can play here and doesn't look comfortable playing Barca football.

I feel like the Arda singing itself was rushed and poorly analyzed because essentially he was a campaigning token for Barto.
 

SeloBarca

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Should have held of buying Arda and instead gotten Gündogan.
Roberto, Rakitic, Rafinha are all the same type of player so were stacked there.
 

ZenI

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Not realistic. Arda is here to stay. He cost a huge amount of money for such an old player, his sell-on value is close to zero and Pogba will cost an unbelievable amount of money.

Not sure, I think one of the top PL clubs would splash around 30M - I'd sell. Seriously though, I can't see either him or Vidal become starters or even backups. All signings can't work, simple as that - no matter how much research you do, some players fail and some succeed.
 

Messi983

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Think is it more likely that Barca will for a back up left back that can play a few positions. LB/CB or LB/RB etc.

That seems to be what they look for in back up players.

Versatility is good but I think the plan is to buy a CB and LB this summer. Now, if we can get CB like Marquinhos (not that I want him, but would be ok if we get him) who can possibly also play RB occasionaly then ok but I believe we'll bring in 2 defenders not one who can play two positions.

And we need more than just backup at CB. We need someone who'd make Mathieu our 4th CB and also push for either Pique's or Mascherano's spot in first XI (I'm not saying he should start over them from first day but he should be good enough for Lucho to play him if Pique or Masche are out of form). And with Alba's recent form I also think we need more than just a backup for him. We need someone who can sit him on the bench when he's not performing well. But good LB is even harder to get than good CB.
 

BBZ8800

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I don't think it would be a bad thing for Arda to be sold in the summer. We rely need an injection of youth in our midfield and hopefully it will come from Roberto, Rafinha and Suarez. And we will have Busi, Iniesta and Raki as well which makes for good balance.

The issue with Arda is that he doesn't look like he can play here and doesn't look comfortable playing Barca football.

I feel like the Arda singing itself was rushed and poorly analyzed because essentially he was a campaigning token for Barto.

I wouldn't be surprised if Roberto and Rafinha (we have yet to see about Suarez) will always be considered as squad players and not a 1st team material in the eyes of a board and coaches.

In short:
-- when we had Iniesta, Rakitic, Busi=Rafinha and Roberto were squad players
Then, instead of giving more chances to youngsters, we bought Arda.

I wouldn't be too much surprised that:
1. if Arda stays=he will again be infront of Rafinha and Roberto, even though forum would like to see youngsters
2. plus, if we sell Arda, imo, we are closer to again buy some random expensive and more proven star like Pogba, Gundogan, Ozil or who knows who, while youngsters will keep getting squad-player minutes, as always.

Don't get me wrong, I like Roberto a lot and (slightly less) Rafinha, but unless if they improve significantly in upcoming years, we will probably always buy "someone else (for a starting 11)".

If they will improve a lot (like young Xavi and Iniesta in their age), they will get more chances.
Also, before someone jumps and reply: "But they need time and chances if we want to see an improvement".
Well, true, but only to some extent.
Players need time and opportunities, but also they need tons of natural talent.
While these guys surely have a talent, imo, I am not too sure that they have a level of talent to be Barca's starters in CL final (but, anything can happen...).

What I am trying to say: even though we had young talents and possibly good players on some other positions (like Montoya, Grimaldo, Deulo, Bartra), unless they make a huge impact, the board always buys "someone else" and these homegrown players either get sold or stay squad players forever.

Again, before someone jumps and say: you can't compare Montoya and Grimaldo with Roberto.
True.
But the point is the same.
While these guys weren't good enough even to be squad players and we bough someone else (to be squad players), it isn't too different with Roberto.
If he is "good enough" only for a squad level, the history has taught us that FC Barcelona will in majority of cases buy some random, new, better guy aged 25, 28 or 30 for much more money.
Also, Roberto is 24 already, and he isn't getting too many midfield minutes since January and since Arda is available.
Add to that, in the next season, Roberto will have to share even more minutes with Rafinha and Suarez.

So, if there is really a chance to sell Arda this summer, don't close the door to a new, random expensive midfield signing from Arda's money.
That's how we always build our squad (except in cases of Xavi, Iniesta and Busi, but those are players who came once in a century...)
 
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DrPepper

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I wouldn't mind selling him in the Summer (and get a proper player like Gündogan instead) but considering how our board rolls there's no way we'd get a double-digit million fee. No way.

Maybe we should loan him to some mid-table club. :mats:
 

Egert

Estonian Culé
Barcelona B goalkeeper Adrian Ortola (22) could be promoted and become third goalkeeper of the first team next season. [md]

This guy is worse than Masip, no?
 

xXKonan

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Barcelona B goalkeeper Adrian Ortola (22) could be promoted and become third goalkeeper of the first team next season. [md]

This guy is worse than Masip, no?
He's been good for Barca B this season and he's taller than Masip. But other than that He's not better than Masip.
 
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khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Barcelona B goalkeeper Adrian Ortola (22) could be promoted and become third goalkeeper of the first team next season. [md]

This guy is worse than Masip, no?

Masip was really gr8 during his time with Barca B and he stayed there until he was 25 which isn't Normal really .I think he would want to get playing time and move on as he is over 27 right now
Ortola is more than good for Barca 3rd GK even if he isn't as good as Masip .beside we will need to open things for the crowded position in Barca B
 
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