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Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
In any case, I think it's safe to say at this time that nothing will happen today. Another day gone, nothing done.
 
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Learo

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:lol: Look back at Xavi in the prime years: roaming up to the CF position, dropping back to the CB's to get the ball. He'd run everywhere on the pitch constantly turning and dominating the ball. He'd provide passing options everywhere.

Busquets on the other hand is maybe 1/4 as mobile. He simply positions himself rather than moving around the pitch. He's intelligent and is a great passer but if we were to move him to CM, we'd lose our defensive backbone and our fluidity in midfield.

It was completely apparent vs. Sociedad. Busi wasn't moving around much and therefore our play was unbelievably static. We couldn't transition the ball between defense/midfield/attack well and rarely had control of the game. Sociedad had us pinned on the back foot for most of the match. We lost that game in midfield and that's because Tata tried experimenting with Busi in the 'Xavi role'.

Of course Busquets stays more static in the DM position. Why on earth would he roam around as a DM? He is of course instructed to stay back. Xavi also stayed less mobile when he played DM before he was moved to CM.

The idea that it was Busquets' fault that we lost that game is way too simplistic. I seem to remember Song frequently moving up the field in that game, playing more of the Xavi role than Busquets. Montoya played as well, and lo and behold, he is also blamed for the defeat together with Song by ppl who dislike Montoya and Song.

We have struggled many games this season. We lost against both Valladolid and Granada as well. It isnt proof of Iniesta being bad. Using a single game as some sort of proof is silly talk.
 
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DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
I think zanela is right. It's gonna be Marquinhos + someone else. Don't see both Marquinhos and Benatia coming. Would be quite a let down. Especially since it seem like Benatia want to join us. It will again will be the case of not wanting to pay up and wrong priorities.
 

Richard.H

Senior Member
Marquinhos and J.Mathieu it is.

All those who think we will buy the Brazilian for big money and also buy Benatia or another top quality CB will be incredibly disappointed. It will be marquinhos AND someone cheap, old with a year or two left at the top flight.

And I doubt these FF rumours. If the agent of a said player is at the club's offices, it's usually the local media that reports first (just like it was SPORT/MD who were the first to transmit the news about the visit of Forlan/Aguero agents few years ago). Besides, talking to the agent doesn't equate to a concrete interest, as has been shown several times in the past.

Mathieu? Seriously? He is not that much better than Montoya. In fact I would start Montoya over him. Useless signing if you ask me. Might as well promote Edgar Ie and call it a day.
 
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Learo

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Benatia will probably go for 50-60m, judging by the prices so far, so in that respect it is more sensible to go for a player like Laporte who has a buy-out. We shouldnt be held ransom. Marquinhos+Laporte can easily happen, unless we pay 50m for Marquinhos.
 
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instinct

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I think zanela is right. It's gonna be Marquinhos + someone else. Don't see both Marquinhos and Benatia coming. Would be quite a let down. Especially since it seem like Benatia want to join us. It will again will be the case of not wanting to pay up and wrong priorities.

Stay optimistic dude. There is certainly interest. Just wait and see.
 

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
Of course Busquets stays more static in the DM position. Why on earth would he roam around as a DM? He is of course instructed to stay back. Besides, Busquets actually has experience in playing attacking midfield for Barca B.

The idea that it was Busquets' fault that we lost that game is way too simplistic. I seem to remember Song frequently moving up the field in that game, playing more of the Xavi role than Busquets. Montoya played as well, and lo and behold, he is also blamed for the defeat together with Song by ppl who dislike Montoya and Song.

We have struggled many games this season. We lost against both Valladolid and Granada as well. It isnt proof of Iniesta being bad. Using a single game as some sort of proof is silly talk.

It's a tactical example. I'm not blaming Busquets for a poor individual performance in a single game which leads to a loss, that's too small a sample size. I'm just giving an example as to how he's very immobile as a player, even when he played CM. His immobility tactically screwed us. You don't need more than 1 game to see that. It's not like if he were to play another game there he'd somehow start running 16km and be involved everywhere. I'm not even blaming him for LOSING as the goals were caused by other factors. It's the fact that we were tactically dominated as a result of a limited and incapable midfield which was completely static.

The 'Xavi role' is all about movement, something Busquets does not have and has NEVER been shown to have. You're making it too simplistic by saying that Busquets is an intelligent passer therefore he should play in the Xavi role. He positions himself, he doesn't move around much. His passing is often in a few touches to provide a foundation presence in our buildup. There's nothing that suggests he's capable of playing in the Xavi role, it's completely unnatural.
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
Masch as backup for Busi will be OK, but unfortunately Busi will have to play all important matches. Whatever you think about Masch he can't do the same job Busi can - when Masch is under pressure we won't see the same calm, technical and smooth player as Busi is, but than again nobody is. Tbh, I even think Song will do a better job as backup for DM than Masch.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Stay optimistic dude. There is certainly interest. Just wait and see.

There is interest as you say, but lately we've only taken it that far, never taken it further to bidding, negotiating with the player's club. Saw it with Thiago Silva, Marquinhos and I see it happening with Benatia again lol.
 

BarçAjax8

New member
I see that as a much more likely possibility than Cesc or Busquets. Iniesta is a CM based on how he participates in all transitions: defense to midfield, buildup in midfield, and midfield to attack. He won't ever be the tempo-setter that Xavi was, as all players have their own styles. However he can easily play in a slightly more conservative role while someone like Rafinha/Cesc does more of the attacking transition.

Sorry guys I don't see Cesc overtaking Iniesta's position. Doing that will just hinder our midfield taking away what Iniesta brings to his role just to force a place for Cesc. Iniesta & Busquets are still the masters of their positions, it's Xavi whose legs aren't what they used to be.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
According to Sky Italia, Juventus have reached an agreement with Alexis Sanchez on his contract and have started the negotiations with FC Barcelona.
 

KingMessi

SiempreBlaugrana
Sorry guys I don't see Cesc overtaking Iniesta's position. Doing that will just hinder our midfield taking away what Iniesta brings to his role just to force a place for Cesc. Iniesta & Busquets are still the masters of their positions, it's Xavi whose legs aren't what they used to be.

I think Roberto, with some coaching and an injection of confidence, could play that mobile central midfielder role that Xavi plays, albeit nowhere close to the level that prime Xavi did it. Rafinha could do this as well, with some added physicality that Xavi lacked.
 
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