FIrst of all, get off your high horse. You have called me biased, deluded, arrogant and in denial with a strange mindset over your last 3 posts, not everyone is going to have the same opinion as you and it does not mean you are right either or smarter as you so obviously think you are. Things can change very quickly in sport which is something you should also bear in mind.
Things can change very quickly, and obviously people are allowed to have different opinions, but it is wishful thinking to say that every single thing will go perfect for Barca the way you picture it with every player mounting back to peak form and for Bayern to struggle in Europe just because they are now targeted. The gap can definitely decrease by a lot, but show a little humility and rationality in terms of expectations. Barca are no shit club, but this is too challenging to accomplish in a single season, we are in a transitional period and Bayern is still growing as a team. Sure we "can" beat them, the possibility is there, but it's not a likely outcome the way things are looking. I'd love for it to happen, but I personally doubt it.
I can name one player, Cesc Fabregas that would start for Bayern and another Dani Alves, and another Neymar, and another Xavi. My opinions are not biased or deluded, I really do believe these players are better than Bayern's, Alba too is a good as Alaba. Ribery on form was better last season than Neymar, but I believe the Brazilian has more talent and that he is at the right club to fullfil his promise. As I said already, or main problem is tactical.
You are writing Xavi off too quickly, just as people did with Pirlo after one average season.
Why can't I talk about how good they can be, what is the point of the forum if not to give opinions on the club. Players do not just lose their abilty, they need the right environment to fulfill their potential, look at the difference Guardiola made in 2008 when he took over with pretty much the same team, and again we have a new coach and I am optimistic he can have a similar effect.
Fabregas is, at his best, better than Muller, Gotze, or Kroos, however we'll have to see if he can continue his form for an entire season. Alves is definitely not better than Lahm, that reeks of bias, he was back in his prime (only in attack, not in defense) but he has declined. Players don't lose ability overnight, but they do lose it over a period of time. Same deal for Xavi, he can improve with more rest and movement in front of him, but his best years are behind him and Schweinsteiger is currently better from any objective eye. Especially if we incorporate pressing, Xavi can't keep it up as well as he did in years past. I don't even know how Neymar vs Ribery is even debatable. Ribery has been among the best for years, and has upped his performances even more recently. Neymar hasn't even played a league game for Barca yet, he is currently far more about promise and potential than current ability and is not comparable to Ribery.
I know you feel better bringing up how good they "can be" based on their prime levels before, but that really indicates very little. Which is closer to indicating a player's current and future performance, how they were in recent seasons or how they were way back when they were in their prime? Players age and change, you're not going to see someone like Ronaldinho or Eto'o take Europe by storm again based off of what their top levels were.
The part in bold is absolute rubbish,if you honestly think that last years performance was all our team can give then you are mad. I have also not put Bayern down once in any of my posts I do not know where you got that from.
Whoever said it was only last season that shows what they can give? The system deteriorated the players quite a bit too, that much is acknowledged. However as I said before recent performance is far more indicative in
aging players than performances of several years ago. Plus, I doubt you could really classify what I said there as "rubbish" coming from a person who actually thinks Alves and Neymar are better than Lahm and Ribery.
Also, how could you possibly rationalize saying that Bayern players aren't as good as they seem after a good season and that it's all "form", yet Barca players are much better than they seem after a bad one?
Look at the jump the team made from 2007/08 to 2008/09, with the same players over both seasons we improved a great deal. Why can't that happen again? Our players are young enough and good enough.
That happened by removing our old, dead wood players and replacing them with in prime ones. Right now, we still have our old players and even the newer ones are very young and far from at their peaks. Not to mention that I doubt a change as drastic as the one Guardiola brought on will come again. We'll evolve a lot and reinvigorate, but I don't think it's realistic to assume it will be just as massive of a change.
All these points are insanely optimistic, technically there is a chance, but very against the odds. If you're trying to prove the case and scenario in which the outcome is possible, then yeah the points could have some support. However this isn't nearly solid enough to make a strong case for saying that Barca beating Bayern is probable.
