Bundesliga 2013/2014

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DERBYTIME!!!
Schlake will be parking the bus (according to the line-up).

 

[S2K1985]

What is perplexing about it ? Shit happens. The league had a similar case 20 odd years ago with Helmer scoring a phantom goal for Bayern vs Nürnberg, the consequence was that the game was repeated which is exactly what will happen in this case here too.

The DFB decided today, that the game wont be repeated.

 

[DennyCrane]

Hoffenheims' fault. They didn't lean their accusation on a breach of rules, so this was pretty unpromising to begin with.

Then again, at least the judge had sense of humour. He told Kießling prior to the negotiation: "Well, at least you have an invitation by the DFB now."

 

[hardyboy]

made up for the mistake in less than a minute.. Rues

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

Extremly entertaining match day so far.

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

23 goals in 5 matches today. Still questions, what the currently most entertaining league is?

 

[Galning]

My favourite league is cooler than your favourite league. Football anno 2013.

 

[footyfan]

I hate to bet against teams that I like but this is the second game in a row I made money on Dortmund's loss.

 

[suckabov]

I hate to bet against teams that I like but this is the second game in a row I made money on Dortmund's loss.

Please stop then.

23 goals in 5 matches today. Still questions, what the currently most entertaining league is?

Indeed, a one horse league is rather entertaining - if you're supporting the horse.

 

[AfricanBavarian]

FT BuLi scores:



Wolfsburg 2-1 BvB

Bayern Munich 3-0 Augsburg

S04 3-1 Bremen

Bayer 04 5-3 Hamburg SV

Hoffenhiem 2-3 Hertha BSC



Bayern are 4 points above BvB with both sides playing each other in the next match day!

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

Please stop then.


Indeed, a one horse league is rather entertaining - if you're supporting the horse.

Up to today it was a three-horse race. And just so you wait for Bayern-Dortmund. If Bayern doesn't lose, it certainly is looking good for Bayern again.
But even then the race for the CL spots, EL spots and against relegation is incredibly tight.

 

[AfricanBavarian]

The only German teams i want to see in the top four UCL spots are Bayern, BvB, Bayer 04, and S04. The rest aren't cut for European football in my opinion. Last season Monchengladbach were a complete buzz kill when they got into the UCL....

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

The only German teams i want to see in the top four UCL spots are Bayern, BvB, Bayer 04, and S04. The rest aren't cut for European football in my opinion. Last season Monchengladbach were a complete buzz kill when they got into the UCL....

Don't forget that Gladbach had just lost their most important and best player Marco Reus, around whom Favre had built his hole offense.
Now they are more settled in and have compensated the loss of Reus.
Wolfsburg would also be a worthy contender, since VW would certainly back them with more financial might once they manage to secure a CL spot.
Naldo-Gustavo-Diego is certainly an excellent axis.

 

[suckabov]

Up to today it was a three-horse race. And just so you wait for Bayern-Dortmund. If Bayern doesn't lose, it certainly is looking good for Bayern again.
But even then the race for the CL spots, EL spots and against relegation is incredibly tight.

Even if it is a three horse race this year, it will be a one horse league once again next year or the year after that. When has any team ever managed to become a long-term serious rival for Bayern? I'd love to see BVB managing to do it, but it just won't happen. Bayern misses the title every other year, but it's not like they struggle to win it most of the time. When they're the best team and outperforming everybody else, let them win the title, they deserve it. But if the rest of the clubs disappear again and again because they just can't keep up financially, that's just lousy. That's why for me, the BuLi just gets rather frustrating and boring after a few years.

 

[Ryu Hayabusa]

You are talking about wealth and prestige that were accomplished over decades. Of course it just won't happen over a year or two that Bayern lose that position of supreme reign over the Bundesliga, especially now, since they are not only the best in Germany any longer, but even the best in Europe (=world).
Still BVB has managed to win the League two years in a row and is still fighting back just now, despite losing their best/2nd best (depending on how you rate Reus) player to them. It's no coincidence that they are having the best starting record into a season of club history just now. Their only problem is that Bayern is even stronger. But how can you blame the likes of Dortmund or Leverkusen for that, or any team for that matter.
If the Bayern of the Jupp/Pep era were playing in England, Spain or Italy instead of Germany, they would still top those leagues and you would make the same comment about the respective league, instead of the Bundesliga.
Dortmund are really, really good as their performance last season had proved especially in the CL, as their two clashes with the current EPL's best have proved. If Dortmund were playing in the EPL or La Liga, they would most likely still rank among the 3 best teams respectively. Again, their only problem is that Bayern are experiencing an era of supreme excellency. With a Bayern of the mid-00's instead of Jupp/Pep's Bayern, the Bundesliga would have already seen a change of the guards with Dortmund taking the seat at the nation's helm.
But Bayern is run by very smart people (compared to many other big clubs or national upcomers) and a state of long-term decay, as was experienced by Gladbach for instance, simply never happened with Bayern, since Bayern's leadership always managed to fully capitalize on the club's wealth and prestige.