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Who will win the Bundesliga this season?

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serghei

Senior Member
Costa was really a so so nobody at Shakhtar and all of sudden he shines at Bayern. And they said Bayern has tracked him for years.

We need better scouts.

We have Neymar and Messi on the wings. Costa is good, I agree, but he is not at that level. Really not the case of being envious of Bayern here IMO.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
We have Neymar and Messi on the wings. Costa is good, I agree, but he is not at that level. Really not the case of being envious of Bayern here IMO.

I am not talking about getting Costa himself. Just saying in general, how scouts find and track talents and prospects etc.
 
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vigneshFCB

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Bayern exert a level of control on football matches under Guardiola which I feel Barcelona are currently not capable of matching.
 

serghei

Senior Member
I am not talking about getting Costa himself. Just saying in general, how scouts find and track talents and prospects etc.

Don't you think Rakitic is a similar transfer with Costa? We payed less for him, and he came from a team of similar level with Shakhtar. Very few top teams were interested in Ivan when at Sevilla IIRC. Aleix Vidal can be the same story.
 
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Trickykid

Active member
Bayern exert a level of control on football matches under Guardiola which I feel Barcelona are currently not capable of matching.

There he goes again. Go be a Bayern fan please. You could start out by trying to convince the good people at Bayernzone that Pep isn't a complete and utter fuck-up for starters.

You're welcome! Bye bye.
 
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vigneshFCB

Guest
What's wrong with you ?

Nothing!!! Barca are better when everyone if fully fit and firing. But when there are injuries, Bayern deal with it better. They have Guardiola, who is far superior to Heynckes or Luis Enrique as he implements a control system which gives them stability. Barca don't have that stability - case in point, Athletic Bilbao 4-0 Barca.
 

messi2140

6racies Xavi
Nothing!!! Barca are better when everyone if fully fit and firing. But when there are injuries, Bayern deal with it better. They have Guardiola, who is far superior to Heynckes or Luis Enrique as he implements a control system which gives them stability. Barca don't have that stability - case in point, Athletic Bilbao 4-0 Barca.

They deal with it better , because they have a better bench.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Nothing!!! Barca are better when everyone if fully fit and firing. But when there are injuries, Bayern deal with it better.

OK, so Bayern are better if our star players get injured. I agree. However, it's very likely that our players will be fit to play more often than they will be injured. So, logically, we will be better than Bayern for the most part. You agree with that?
 
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Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
There is no need to ostracize vigneshFCB, he is not a Bayern fan (you guys forgot his recent heated exchange with Ryu?), he is a Barca fan and a Guardiola fanboy, I think.

He is right that Bayern's total control of the game and their absolute possession are getting ever better under Guardiola that few other teams can match. If we give our 100%, I think we can match them, if not (like the 2nd leg of the CL semi-final last season), we can't.

As Robben is getting older and not as sharp as before, Bayern has really just one person who can penetrate in the middle, Mario Goetze as he did a few times today. Bayern still relies on the two wingers to provide accurate and deadly passes to find the man in the middle in front of the goal. They still cross a lot from the wings. We need to find a solution to contain their wingers if we play them again.
 

xavi_the_Boss

New member
Nothing!!! Barca are better when everyone if fully fit and firing. But when there are injuries, Bayern deal with it better. They have Guardiola, who is far superior to Heynckes or Luis Enrique as he implements a control system which gives them stability. Barca don't have that stability - case in point, Athletic Bilbao 4-0 Barca.

How is he far better to Heynckes?
He hasn´t done anything at Bayern that makes me think that they are better with him then under Heynckes.
Bayern also lost 4:1 to Wolfsburg.
 

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