Bundesliga

Who will win the Bundesliga this season?

  • Borussia Dortmund

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  • Stuttgart

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  • Other

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  • Total voters
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Ryu Hayabusa

Guest
:lol: Dortmund had 6 titles up until two years ago.

Yeah, okay. So? That term was introduced for marketing reasons. Also I highly doubt that you didn't know that term beforehand. You only wanted to ridicule it (like you ofc did) right after someone stated the obvious answer. Classy.

In Germany, the regional derbys have always had a much higher importance than in other leagues or the meeting of the historically two best teams.
 
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Ryu Hayabusa

Guest
You're missing the point. Barcelona HAS Real Madrid. Give me a team from Bundesliga that is for Bayern what Real Madrid is for Barcelona (or vice versa). There isn't one.

No, he is not missing the point. You just like talking to straw men and repeating the few points you have over an over again in a debate.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Well, I'm sorry our cultural and technological enrichment of the rest of the globe in form of 16 to 19th century imperialism wasn't as fruitful as that of the British, Spanish and French. We were busy trying to become a nation and deciding the fate of the various forms of Christianity. :p

What, Ryu? You struck me as a bit of... you know... ;) Next thing you know is us all singing to the tunes of Deutschland über alles...

By the way, I almost bought the book "The German Genius" at the bookstore inside Hauptbahnhof in Munich but I thought it was a bit too much, you know. ;)
 
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Ryu Hayabusa

Guest
What, Ryu? You struck me as a bit of... you know... ;) Next thing you know is us all singing to the tunes of Deutschland über alles...

By the way, I almost bought the book "The German Genius" at the bookstore inside Hauptbahnhof in Munich but I thought it was a bit too much, you know. ;)

No, please DO elaborate what I might know. :p
 

serghei

Senior Member
Also I highly doubt that you didn't know that term beforehand. You only wanted to ridicule it (like you ofc did) right after someone stated the obvious answer. Classy

Very insightful as usual.

I may not be classy in this matter, but I am sure right.
 

Yannik

Senior Member
You're missing the point. Barcelona HAS Real Madrid. Give me a team from Bundesliga that is for Bayern what Real Madrid is for Barcelona (or vice versa). There isn't one.

okay and your point was what then?
You're not exactly telling anyone new things if you say that there isnt a 2nd giant in germany.
 

KingMessi

SiempreBlaugrana
Every team will do what it can to make itself better. It's not any fault of Bayern's that their domestic rivals aren't up to scratch.

It's not like we haven't bought star players from La Liga's best teams (excluding Real Madrid). Villa/Alba/Mathieu from Valencia, Alves/Adriano/Rakitic/Vidal from Sevilla, Turan from Atletico, Bravo from Sociedad, etc.
 

KingMessi

SiempreBlaugrana
The narrative that Bayern wants to destroy its domestic rivals is silly and childish. If they wanted to do so, why would they have bailed out Dortmund a few years back with an interest free loan?
 
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Ryu Hayabusa

Guest
My other passion other than Barça, you know. ;)

Ah, yeah, I DO remember you admitting to be a closet commie at some point in the past. :p So you thought I wanted to lure you into another political debate, or what? ;)
 

serghei

Senior Member
Every team will do what it can to make itself better. It's not any fault of Bayern's that their domestic rivals aren't up to scratch.

And who said it's Bayern's fault? It's not Bayern's fault for that situation, but it is a reality that speaks about the balance of power in Bundesliga. It's Bayern and the rest there.
 

Yannik

Senior Member
To simplify things, I'll resume it to one phrase: Bundesliga is the only serious league in which there is only one truly big club.

around 10 pages of deicussion and you want to clarify a point everyone knows already?
This fact doesnt make it a weak league. There is only one "truly big" clubs, but I count around 4 or 5 semi-big-clubs, that noone loves to encounter in CL or normal matchday.
 
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Ryu Hayabusa

Guest
The narrative that Bayern wants to destroy its domestic rivals is silly and childish. If they wanted to do so, why would they have bailed out Dortmund a few years back with an interest free loan?

+ buying Frings, a declinig player they had no real use for at an inflated price at the time (Hoeneß once admitted that that was done to "help" Dortmund).
 

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