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Perhaps stale was a bad word. We were playing well the whole game... but it seemed to my perception that we weren't being very penetrative until Cesc came in. Penetration and directness seems to be something he does currently have in abundance more than Iniesta and Xavi.Point was his contributions have been blown out proportion since he found his form. There's nothing factual about that claim..none of Mascherano, Busquets, Messi, Iniesta, Xavi and VV have been playing below Cesc's level this season. Our fullbacks and wingers have been either shit or inconsistent.
I don't know how closely you were paying attention to the match against Sevilla, or if you've had a second viewing (often helps) but there was nothing stale about Barca prior to Cesc coming on, we caused problems and had them scrambling in and around their box with nearly every possession and always looked the more threatening side at 1-0, and they were easily dealt with on the defensive end save of course set pieces. The 2-0 goal was hardly a surprise or against the run of play.
Cesc was good but you have to be joking if you're telling me it was him and not Messi who made the crucial difference on the offensive end.
Perhaps Cesc has been "blown out of proportion"... or perhaps not. Perhaps people are just glad he is finally finding his potential and being one of the most creative players on the team. Yes, perhaps stating he has been our best player this season as "fact" is going overboard, but it is an opinion held by many. If not "best", certainly our most "creative" player as far as goal chances go, and I'm sure the stats would back that up.
That's exactly it. I doubt Iniesta would have been in that right place at that right time in that moment. Who knows, Iniesta could have ended up creating something else in the time remaining, but for the ~70 minutes he played, he didn't create a chance like Cesc did. The whole art of creating like that is being at the right place at the right time... that's why he was so effective.he didn't turn jack, he was in the right place at the right time for the messi move and that's it
I would disagree that it was Messi alone that turned the game, because that 2nd goal was not a solo goal but the combination of Cesc's position + Neymar's perfect pass + Messi's magic. The third goal, yes, was completely Messi, but I would not attribute the turn around to solely Messi. And not solely to Fabregas either, but I do think he was a big part. It isn't just me who noticed that we had a distinct edge about us once Cesc came on.
DonAndres said:Even today, the difference looked so damn obvious. For the entire first half and some of the 2nd, our passing play was completely static and our players looked chained and tied to their positions with little motivation and fire (with the exception of Neymar). Later when we shifted to our attacking style to be more urgent, it was a frenzy of switching positions and linking up between Nemesis and Cesc. He was the key that unlocked the beast of our attack, bringing out the best of Messi who had previously been lethargic, and providing a perfect connection for Neymar as well.
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