Beast
The Observer
U had experience less Pep as well..
lets see how this turns out .. i will reserve my judgment on Leonardo (even though the signs are not good )based on how good they perform tomorrow in Milano derby against Mourinho
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U had experience less Pep as well..
lets see how this turns out .. i will reserve my judgment on Leonardo (even though the signs are not good )based on how good they perform tomorrow in Milano derby against Mourinho
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Jordzibob
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And they have no Kaka. Apart from Pato and Huntelaar basically everybody in that team is age 30+, it showed last time that it needed to change and it just hasnt, I cant see them beating Madrid and I think Marseille have an extremely good chance of coming 2nd.
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blueduck
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Players win games, not culture.
Beast
The Observer
Wrong
A club culture is more important..
you wouldn't understand Ducky.. your club isn't one .
youth players at the big clubs are nursed to be winners , it's a club culture
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blueduck
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So if a club has weaker players, but a better "culture" than the opposition, they are more likely to win?
diegomessi
Anxiously waiting for the next match
jajajajaja o gooosh...
Beast
The Observer
a great talented player without the "Culture " to win would be another Denlison or Dinho last 3 years..
so to answer you it's a YES.. precisely that's what Madrid did under Capello .. we had a lesser team than Barca but the culture /will to win enabled us to turn crazy games in our favor (not less than 10 games we came from behind which ended by another comeback in the last game of the season to take home the league trophy ) ..
the winning culture is important .. Cule's , Madridistas, Manc's , Liverpool ,Milan,Juve fans and players would understand this
Citeh fans /players don't have that ..
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Jordzibob
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Building on that with Milan, Pato. Thats it. No youth players who are particuarly good at the moment. Just old players who proved in the CL last time that they are far past it.
diegomessi
Anxiously waiting for the next match
culture = desire, good supporters that drive the team, and hardwork?
Beast
The Observer
no mate it transfer like a virus in a club with such traditions .. same thing in every club do you think CR,Rooney,Carrick ,Rio...etc are youth products for Man U ? of course they are not.
they are trained to have a winning mentality every single day .. defeats are not accepted , trophies wanted
there is no pat on the back because they slacked off ..
back to Milan.. Nesta-Gattuso-Pirlo-Ambrosini..etc the club as a whole have that from the smallest role to the president ..
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blueduck
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Tactics (with a small percent of luck) won the title not culture.
If culture was so important how come Madrid have failed to progress into the latter stages of the CL in recent years?
Surely your culture would of got you there?
If culture was so important how come Madrid have failed to progress into the latter stages of the CL in recent years?
Surely your culture would of got you there?
Beast
The Observer
U mean our culture GOT US THERE ?
you know in the last 16 every single year .. funny you forget that that same culture brought us 3 CL in 7 years right before it..
we play similar clubs most of the times
being in the CL every year and passing the group stage every single time says it all .. something sure u can't understand .. the CL for you is a pub around the corner of your house ?
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diegomessi
Anxiously waiting for the next match
so belittling..... so Ducky dosent support a BIG club with a "culture" he supports his hometown team and thats admirable in itself...
Beast
The Observer
And there is no problem with that.. he is free to support whatever he likes.. we are talking about the winning culture at BIG CLUBS which he couldn't comprehend and questioned..
.. something he can't understand normally cause he support a team that lacks the culture ..
i would have said u could understand but i know u wouldn't ..
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